Vector Field Transformation to Spherical Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around transforming a vector field from Cartesian to spherical coordinates, specifically focusing on the vector field defined as $$\mathbf{\overrightarrow{a}} = x_{3}\mathbf{\hat{e_{1}}} + 2x_{1}\mathbf{\hat{e_{2}}} + x_{2}\mathbf{\hat{e_{3}}}$$. Participants are examining the correctness of their transformations and comparing their results with those provided in a textbook.

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  • The original poster attempts to transform the vector field into spherical coordinates and expresses concern over discrepancies between their results and those in the textbook, particularly for the component $$a_{r}$$. Other participants suggest that there may be a typographical error in the textbook and discuss the implications of their findings.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting that the original poster's calculations may be correct while pointing out potential typographical errors in the textbook. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these findings, particularly regarding the dimensional correctness of the textbook's answer.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the textbook provides accurate solutions, but they are questioning this assumption based on their calculations. The discussion highlights the importance of verifying results against authoritative sources while acknowledging the possibility of errors in those sources.

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Homework Statement
Formulate the vector field

$$
\mathbf{\overrightarrow{a}} = x_{3}\mathbf{\hat{e_{1}}} + 2x_{1}\mathbf{\hat{e_{2}}} + x_{2}\mathbf{\hat{e_{3}}}

$$

in spherical coordinates.
Relevant Equations
$$
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{r}} \\
\hat{e_{\upsilon}} \\
\hat{e_{\phi}}
\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}
\sin\upsilon\cos\phi &\sin\upsilon\sin\phi & \cos\upsilon \\
\cos\upsilon\cos\phi & \cos\upsilon\sin\phi & -\sin\upsilon \\
-\sin\phi & \cos\phi & 0
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{x}} \\
\hat{e_{y}} \\
\hat{e_{z}}
\end{bmatrix}
$$

and

$$
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{x}} \\
\hat{e_{y}} \\
\hat{e_{z}}
\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}
\sin\upsilon\cos\phi &\cos\upsilon\cos\phi & -\sin\phi \\
\sin\upsilon\sin\phi & \cos\upsilon\sin\phi & \cos\phi \\
\cos\upsilon & -\sin\upsilon & 0
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{r}} \\
\hat{e_{\upsilon}} \\
\hat{e_{\phi}}
\end{bmatrix}
$$
I am trying to solve the following problem from my textbook:

Formulate the vector field

$$
\mathbf{\overrightarrow{a}} = x_{3}\mathbf{\hat{e_{1}}} + 2x_{1}\mathbf{\hat{e_{2}}} + x_{2}\mathbf{\hat{e_{3}}}
$$

in spherical coordinates.My solution is the following:

For the unit vectors I use the following matrix equations:
$$
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{r}} \\
\hat{e_{\upsilon}} \\
\hat{e_{\phi}}
\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}
\sin\upsilon\cos\phi &\sin\upsilon\sin\phi & \cos\upsilon \\
\cos\upsilon\cos\phi & \cos\upsilon\sin\phi & -\sin\upsilon \\
-\sin\phi & \cos\phi & 0
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{x}} \\
\hat{e_{y}} \\
\hat{e_{z}}
\end{bmatrix}
$$

and

$$
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{x}} \\
\hat{e_{y}} \\
\hat{e_{z}}
\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}
\sin\upsilon\cos\phi &\cos\upsilon\cos\phi & -\sin\phi \\
\sin\upsilon\sin\phi & \cos\upsilon\sin\phi & \cos\phi \\
\cos\upsilon & -\sin\upsilon & 0
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
\hat{e_{r}} \\
\hat{e_{\upsilon}} \\
\hat{e_{\phi}}
\end{bmatrix}
$$

Transforming the scalar functions into spherical coordinates I have the following equation:

$$
\mathbf{\overrightarrow{a}} = r\cos\upsilon\hspace{1mm}\mathbf{\hat{e_{1}}} + 2r\sin\upsilon\cos\phi \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{2}}} + r\sin\upsilon\sin\phi \hspace{1mm}\mathbf{\hat{e_{3}}}
$$

Substituting the values for the standard basis vectors and rearranging to the following form

$$
\mathbf{\overrightarrow{a}} = a_{r}\mathbf{\hat{e_{r}}} + a_{\upsilon}\mathbf{\hat{e_{\upsilon}}} + a_{\phi}\mathbf{\hat{e_{\phi}}}
$$

I arrive at

$$
\mathbf{\overrightarrow{a}} = r \cos{\upsilon}(\sin{\upsilon}\cos{\phi} \hspace{1mm}\mathbf{\hat{e_{r}}}+ \cos{\upsilon} \cos{\phi} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{\upsilon}}}- \sin{\phi} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{\phi}}})+ \\
\hspace{25mm}2r \sin{\upsilon} \cos{\phi}( \sin{\upsilon} \sin{\phi} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{r}}}+ \cos{\upsilon} \sin{\phi} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{\upsilon}}}+ \cos{\phi} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e{\phi}}}) + \\
\hspace{1mm}r \sin{\upsilon} \sin{\phi} ( \cos{\upsilon} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{r}}}- \sin{\upsilon} \hspace{1mm} \mathbf{\hat{e_{\upsilon}}})
$$

and solving for the scalar functions

$$
a_{r} = r\cos\upsilon \sin\upsilon \cos \phi + 2r \sin^2{ \upsilon} \cos \phi \sin \phi + r \sin \upsilon \sin \phi \cos \upsilon
$$

$$
a_{\upsilon} = r \cos^2 \upsilon \cos \phi + 2r \sin \upsilon \cos \phi \cos \upsilon \sin \phi -r \sin^2 \upsilon \sin \phi
$$

$$
a_{\phi} = 2r \sin \upsilon \cos^2 \phi - r \cos \upsilon \sin \phi
$$

All my answers match those given in the back of the textbook except for ##a_{r}## which is given as

$$
a_{r} = \cos \phi + r \sin \upsilon \cos \upsilon \sin \phi
$$

I have tried different trigonometric identities but am unable to rearrange my solution for ##a_{r}## to match the answer given in the text. Could someone please point out the error in my calculations or confirm for me that the answer provided by the textbook is incorrect?
 
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I found only one "typo" that didn't propagate: It should say ## a=...r \sin{v} \, sin{\phi} \, e_3 ## in the middle of the page, with ## \sin{\phi} ##. I didn't check everything, but I think your result might be correct.
 
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Charles Link said:
I found only one "typo" that didn't propagate: It should say ## a=...r \sin{v} \, sin{\phi} \, e_3 ## in the middle of the page, with ## \sin{\phi} ##. I didn't check everything, but I think your result might be correct.
Thanks, you are correct it is a typo. I do in fact have ##\sin{\phi}## in my paper calculations and not ##\cos{\phi}##
 
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Teclis said:
$$
a_{r} = r\cos\upsilon \sin\upsilon \cos \phi + 2r \sin^2{ \upsilon} \cos \phi \sin \phi + r \sin \upsilon \sin \phi \cos \upsilon
$$
All my answers match those given in the back of the textbook except for ##a_{r}## which is given as
$$
a_{r} = \cos \phi + r \sin \upsilon \cos \upsilon \sin \phi
$$
Your answer can be written (over two lines) as
$$
a_{r} = r\cos\upsilon \sin\upsilon \cos \phi + 2r \sin^2{ \upsilon}\sin \phi $$ $$\cos \phi+ r \sin \upsilon \cos \upsilon \sin \phi
$$
Notice something?
 
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haruspex said:
Your answer can be written (over two lines) as
$$
a_{r} = r\cos\upsilon \sin\upsilon \cos \phi + 2r \sin^2{ \upsilon}\sin \phi $$ $$\cos \phi+ r \sin \upsilon \cos \upsilon \sin \phi
$$
Notice something?

Yes, so you think the answer in the Textbook has just been unintentionally truncated?
 
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Teclis said:
Yes, so you think the answer in the Textbook has just been unintentionally truncated?
Looks like it. What's left is not even dimensionally correct.
 
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