Table Functions Explained: Help for Understanding

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The discussion revolves around understanding the function transformation defined by the rule \( g(x) = f(-x) + 1 \). Participants explore how to apply this rule to compute values of \( g \) based on given values of \( f \), focusing on specific inputs such as \( g(-2) \) and \( g(-1) \). The conversation includes attempts to clarify the steps involved in the transformation and the reasoning behind them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the function and requests clarification.
  • Another participant explains how to find \( g(-2) \) using the transformation rule, showing the steps involved in the calculation.
  • Some participants discuss the process of negating the input and how it relates to finding \( g(x) \).
  • There are multiple calculations presented for different inputs, with one participant stating they obtained values of 0, 1, 0, and -1.
  • Questions arise regarding the necessity of using \( f(x) \) to find \( g(x) \), indicating some uncertainty about the relationship between the two functions.
  • Further calculations for \( g(-1) \) are provided, with participants detailing the steps of negation, evaluation of \( f \), and addition of 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method to apply the transformation rule, but there is some confusion and uncertainty regarding the reasoning behind the steps taken, particularly in relation to the use of \( f(x) \) in finding \( g(x) \). No consensus is reached on the clarity of the explanation or the necessity of certain steps.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the process of using \( f(x) \) to find \( g(x) \), indicating potential gaps in understanding the relationship between the two functions. There is also a lack of clarity on how to interpret the outputs from the table of values for \( f \).

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I do not get what is going on here. Can someone please explain? This is sohard for me to understand. thank you
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Let's look at the first place where an answer is expected, that is to find $g(-2)$.

We are given the rule:

$$g(x)=f(-x)+1$$

Therefore, we may state:

$$g(-2)=f(-(-2))+1=f(2)+1=-1+1=0$$

Can you try the others in the same way?
 
MarkFL said:
Let's look at the first place where an answer is expected, that is to find $g(-2)$.

We are given the rule:

$$g(x)=f(-x)+1$$

Therefore, we may state:

$$g(-2)=f(-(-2))+1=f(2)+1=-1+1=0$$

Can you try the others in the same way?

Ok so we're including the - we are plugging it in with the negative.
That makes more sense.
 
OMGMathPLS said:
Ok so we're including the - we are plugging it in with the negative.
That makes more sense.

Yes, the rule:

$$g(x)=f(-x)+1$$

tells us to take the input to $g$, change its sign or negate it, and input it to $f$, and then add 1 to that output, and this is the output of $g$. :D
 
so he next values I got were: 0,1,0, -1
 
Let's look at the next one...what did you do to get 0?
 
MarkFL said:
Let's look at the next one...what did you do to get 0?

I'm not sure why we are putting it into the (x) first and then = f(x) if we're trying to find g(x).

Because all we are using from the table is the x so why are we do we even need the f(x)?
 
OMGMathPLS said:
I'm not sure why we are putting it into the (x) first and then = f(x) if we're trying to find g(x).

In order to find $g(x)$, we need to use the given rule:

$$g(x)=f(-x)+1$$

So, we do the following:

1.) Negate the input to $g$.

2.) Pass this negated input to $f$.

3.) Add 1 to the value obtained from $f$.

4.) This is the value of $g$.

So, for the second one, we find:

1.) $$-(-1)=1$$

2.) $$f(1)=2$$

3.) $$2+1=3$$

4.) $$g(-1)=3$$

Or, as I did the first one:

$$g(-1)=f(-(-1))+1=f(1)+1=2+1=3$$ :D
 
MarkFL said:
In order to find $g(x)$, we need to use the given rule:

$$g(x)=f(-x)+1$$

So, we do the following:

1.) Negate the input to $g$.

2.) Pass this negated input to $f$.

3.) Add 1 to the value obtained from $f$.

4.) This is the value of $g$.

So, for the second one, we find:

1.) $$-(-1)=1$$

2.) $$f(1)=2$$

3.) $$2+1=3$$

4.) $$g(-1)=3$$

Or, as I did the first one:

$$g(-1)=f(-(-1))+1=f(1)+1=2+1=3$$ :D

Thank you
 

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