Take the real part of complex wave function

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the process of extracting the real part of a complex wave function, specifically for the function y2 = A exp(4ix) exp(-2it). Participants are also exploring how this relates to the propagation speed of the wave compared to two other wave disturbances, y1 and y3, which are expressed in different forms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the identity exp(ix) = cos(x) + i sin(x) to rewrite the complex wave function. There are attempts to combine the exponentials and questions about the implications of the real part on wave propagation speed. Some participants express confusion about how to interpret the results in terms of wave behavior.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the mathematical manipulation required to find the real part of the wave function. Guidance has been offered regarding the combination of exponentials and the implications of the resulting expressions on wave propagation. Participants are questioning how to determine the nature of the waves (stationary vs. traveling) based on their mathematical forms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct help they can receive. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between different wave functions and their characteristics without providing direct solutions.

kiranm
Messages
10
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



how do I take the real part of y2= A exp (4ix) exp (-2it)? And how does this determine that this wave propagates with constant speed compared to these wave disturbances:
y1= A sin (5x) exp (-2t)
y3= A sin (2x-5t) exp (-2t)

Homework Equations



exp(ix)= cos x + i sin x

The Attempt at a Solution



For Re(y2) i got A cos (4x) cos (-2t). I don't think that is correct i just don't know how to combine that because i know taking the real part is the cos but my attempt doesn't make sense.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Let's start with the real part question.

You are right that exp(ix) = cos(x) + i sin(x), so you can plug that into the equation:
exp(4ix) exp(-2it) = (... + ... i)(... + ... i)
When work out the brackets, so you can write it in the form
Re(y2) + Im(y2) i

Or you can first combine the exponentials to exp(4ix) exp(-2it) = exp(...) and then use the identity.
 
so would it be exp(4ix-2it) = exp i(4x-2t)= cos (4x-2t) + i sin (4x-2t)?
 
but I am not understanding how this tells u that the wave propagates at constant speed with no change in its profile compared to the other two wave disturbances?

and how can u tell that y1 is a stationary wave whose amplitude is decreasing exponentially with time and that y3 is a traveling wave also decreasing exponentially with time?
 
Examine the angle 4x-2t. If that stays the same, y2 obviously stays the same as well. So, what's required for 4x-2t to keep constant as t changes? Can you prove that if x=x0+vt for any x0 and some v, then 4x-2t is a constant? What does "v" have to be?

Once you prove that, the second part:

and how can u tell that y1 is a stationary wave whose amplitude is decreasing exponentially with time and that y3 is a traveling wave also decreasing exponentially with time?

should be easy. Examine the sinuisoidal part of y1; what's v? Do the same for y3, then consider what effect the exponential term has on the wavefunction.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K