Taking AP Phys (Mech) in 11th grade with no Phys experience?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision to take AP Physics (Mechanics) in 11th grade without prior physics experience. Participants explore the implications of this choice, considering the necessary mathematical background and the potential impact of previous coursework in precalculus and chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about taking AP Physics (Mechanics) without prior physics experience, questioning if it would be a bad idea given their current coursework in Honors Precalc and Honors Chemistry.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of the quality of previous courses and suggests that a heavy course load with multiple AP classes may limit the time available for studying physics.
  • Some participants argue that having a strong math background, particularly in calculus, may be sufficient for success in AP Physics (Mechanics), as the course primarily covers mechanics.
  • A later reply mentions that in their program, taking AP Physics (Mechanics) after completing Calculus AB is a requirement, implying that prior physics knowledge is not necessary.
  • Another participant notes that many students may excel in honors precalculus but still be unprepared for college-level physics, suggesting a need for additional preparation.
  • One participant plans to review basic physics over the summer to better prepare for the course.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the necessity of prior physics experience, with some believing it is not essential if the student has a strong math background, while others caution that prior knowledge could be beneficial. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the student considering AP Physics (Mechanics).

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in high school course quality and the potential disconnect between high school grades and actual preparedness for college-level courses.

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Would it be a bad idea to take AP Physics (Mechanics) in 11th grade with no prior Physics experience? I'm currently in 10th grade taking Honors Precalc and Honors Chem. I'm taking AP Calculus BC next year, but I'm not sure what science classes I want to take for 11th/12th grade. I was also considering taking AP Chem in 11th grade and AP Physics (Mechanics) in 12th, would this be a better idea? Either way, I'd be taking Physics without any prior experience.

I talked briefly with an AP Physics teacher at my school, who told me that I could take AP Phys (Mech) next year as long as I was good with math and taking a Calc course next year. She said that there were people in her class who hadn't taken regular Physics. Still, would this plan be alright? Class registration deadline is tonight, and I'm kind of running out of time... any input would be greatly appreciated!
 
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MaddieL said:
Would it be a bad idea to take AP Physics (Mechanics) in 11th grade with no prior Physics experience? I'm currently in 10th grade taking Honors Precalc and Honors Chem. I'm taking AP Calculus BC next year, but I'm not sure what science classes I want to take for 11th/12th grade. I was also considering taking AP Chem in 11th grade and AP Physics (Mechanics) in 12th, would this be a better idea? Either way, I'd be taking Physics without any prior experience.

I talked briefly with an AP Physics teacher at my school, who told me that I could take AP Phys (Mech) next year as long as I was good with math and taking a Calc course next year. She said that there were people in her class who hadn't taken regular Physics. Still, would this plan be alright? Class registration deadline is tonight, and I'm kind of running out of time... any input would be greatly appreciated!

It comes down to the quality of that pre-calc and chemistry course, as well as how good your physical science course was if you had one.

Also consider how much time you have. Five AP courses and a lot of extracurriculars leaves less time for extra effort than 2 AP courses and a focus on academics.

I've seen a lot of students ace honors pre-calc and be woefully unprepared for college level physics and calculus.

Make a plan to do ALEKS pre-calc before the first day of classes, and I would be much more confident in your success.

Grades in high school courses mean absolutely nothing in terms of real preparation for college level classes. Too many grades are gifted or boosted to make parents happy and avoid negative feedback. ALEKS does not lie.
 
Dr. Courtney said:
It comes down to the quality of that pre-calc and chemistry course, as well as how good your physical science course was if you had one.

Also consider how much time you have. Five AP courses and a lot of extracurriculars leaves less time for extra effort than 2 AP courses and a focus on academics.

I've seen a lot of students ace honors pre-calc and be woefully unprepared for college level physics and calculus.

Make a plan to do ALEKS pre-calc before the first day of classes, and I would be much more confident in your success.

Grades in high school courses mean absolutely nothing in terms of real preparation for college level classes. Too many grades are gifted or boosted to make parents happy and avoid negative feedback. ALEKS does not lie.

Thank you for the advice, I'll be sure to look into ALEKS!

Yeah I'm not really loaded with APs; AP Calc and AP Phys are my only AP classes next year. Also I'm planning to go over basic physics over the summer so I at least have some idea of what's going on.
 
In my program, you're actually required to take AP Physics Mechanics after taking Calc AB, with it being your first physics class, so I assume that prior physics knowledge isn't needed.
 
If you have the math background you should be fine, especially since the course only covers mechanics. Usually they cover one semester of mechanics and one of E&M so students can take both tests. I think people generally should retake intro in college anyway if there is an honors version available.
 

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