Taking the Limit of this fraction involving trig functions

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a fraction involving trigonometric functions, specifically the expression f(x) = (cos x - √(cos 2x)) / (tan^2 x) as x approaches 0. Participants explore various approaches to simplify the expression using trigonometric identities and limits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest expressing the function in terms of cos x and exploring the limit as a function of cos x. There are discussions about misunderstanding the application of limits and the potential use of L'Hôpital's rule. Some participants propose factoring or multiplying by the conjugate to simplify the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with multiple participants providing different perspectives on how to approach the limit. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities and the structure of the limit, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution yet.

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Participants express uncertainty about the instructions given by a teacher and question the clarity of the problem setup. There are indications of differing interpretations of how to manipulate the limit expression effectively.

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Homework Statement
Lim (x->0) (cosx-sqrt(cos2x))/tan^2(x)
x∈(-π/4;π/4)\{0}
Relevant Equations
lim (x->x0) (1-cosa*f(x))/[f(x)]^2=a^2/2
Can't attempt to solve the task.
I'd appreciate it a lot if you could help!
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You can express <br /> f(x) = \frac{\cos x - \sqrt{\cos 2x}}{\tan^2 x} in terms of \cos x using basic trig identities. What can you do with <br /> \lim_{x \to 0} f(x) = \lim_{x \to 0} g(\cos x)?
 
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lim (x->0) g * lim(x->0) cosx
 
Memo said:
lim (x->0) g * lim(x->0) cosx
You are misunderstanding #2. This is not how limits of a function of a function works.
 
Memo said:
lim (x->0) g * lim(x->0) cosx
I think you should get the limit into a form where it is explicitly a function of ##\cos x## and take it from there.
 
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this is what my teacher gave me. Yes, I don't understand him/her. Not sure if he/she's telling me to convert the function into that form or what, I don't see how it would turn out and just answered within my knowledge
 
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this is what my teacher gave me. Yes, I don't understand him/her. Not sure if he/she's telling me to convert the function into that form or what, I don't see how it would turn out and just answered within my knowledge
PeroK said:
I think you should get the limit into a form where it is explicitly a function of ##\cos x## and take it from there.
 
I was replying to #4. This is as far as I can get to, sorry.
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Memo said:
I was replying to #4. This is as far as I can get to, sorry.
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I can't see what you have on the right hand side. That doesn't look as helpful as I'd hoped.

Do you know l'hospital's rule?
 
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Write it as <br /> (\cos^2 x)\frac{\cos x - \sqrt{2\cos^2 x - 1}}{1 - \cos^2 x} = u^2 \frac{u - \sqrt{2u^2 - 1}}{1 - u^2}
 
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pasmith said:
Write it as <br /> (\cos^2 x)\frac{\cos x - \sqrt{2\cos^2 x - 1}}{1 - \cos^2 x} = u^2 \frac{u - \sqrt{2u^2 - 1}}{1 - u^2}
Could you tell me what happens after that?
 
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pasmith said:
You can express <br /> f(x) = \frac{\cos x - \sqrt{\cos 2x}}{\tan^2 x} in terms of \cos x using basic trig identities. What can you do with <br /> \lim_{x \to 0} f(x) = \lim_{x \to 0} g(\cos x)?
While a tractable path, I’d say it would be slightly more transparent to factorize out cos(x) and write the rest in terms of tan(x). This also directly uses the result regarding the product of limits the teacher apparently referred to.
 
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You can also use the limit definition of continuity. If g is continuous at ##x_0##, then, ##lim_{x\rightarrow x_0}g(x)=g(lim_{x\rightarrow x_0})##
 
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Here's another idea. Multiply top and bottom by the conjugate of numerator to get rid of the square root.

PS This works nicely!
 
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Memo said:
I was replying to #4. This is as far as I can get to, sorry.
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Use the expression in the above image (post #8) - well, most importantly use the numerator.

##\displaystyle \dfrac{ \cos x-\sqrt{ 2\cos^2x -1 \, } } {\tan^2x}##

Then do as @PeroK suggested in the preceding post.
 
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