Tangent Bundles, T(MxN) is Diffeomorphic to TM x TN

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the tangent bundle of the product of two smooth manifolds, M and N, specifically addressing the claim that T(MxN) is diffeomorphic to TM x TN.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the representation of tangent vectors in the context of the product manifold and question the validity of certain assumptions regarding vector fields on M and N.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made about the vector fields and their bases. Some participants are questioning the correctness of the initial assumptions and seeking clarification on the mapping of tangent vectors.

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Participants note potential issues with assuming that certain vector fields can be treated as belonging to both tangent spaces of M and N simultaneously. There is also uncertainty regarding the completeness of the proposed mappings between tangent vectors.

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Homework Statement



If M and N are smooth manifolds, then T(MxN) is diffeomorphic to TM x TN

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So I'm here

let ((p,q),v) \in T(MxN)

then p \in M and q \in N and v \in T(p,q)(MxN).

so T(p,q)(MxN) v = \sum_{i=1}^{m+n} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{(p,q)}

= \sum_{i=1}^{m} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{p} + \sum_{i=}^{m+1} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{q}

not sure if this is it?
 
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You kind of assume that \frac{\partial}{\partial x^i} are vector fields on both M\times N and N. I think you should be a little more careful than this...
 
Hi Micro, I'm not sure I understand what you mean, am am assuming however that

\sum_{i=1}^{m} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{p} and \sum_{i=}^{m+1} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{q}

are bases for TM and TN respectively and I'm not sure if that's good enough.
 
Well, you assume \frac{\partial}{\partial x_i}\vert_p is both in T_pM and T_pN. You can't do that.
 
v = \sum_{i=1}^{m} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{(p,q)} + \sum_{i=}^{m+1} v_{i}\frac{\partial}{∂x_{i}}|_{(p,q)}

so i need to find a map that takes v \rightarrow (w,y)

where w\inTpM and y\inTpN

and (w,y) \in TpM x TqN

does this sound better? I was thinking about this problem a lot. I'm not sure if that's a diffeo right off the get.
 

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