Tarzan, angel that rope breaks.

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The problem involves Tarzan swinging from a cliff using a vine, with specific parameters regarding his weight, the length of the vine, and the height of his descent. The focus is on determining the maximum tension in the vine and whether it breaks under the given conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the tension in the vine and question the validity of the provided equations. There is confusion regarding the descent distance relative to the length of the vine. Some suggest drawing free-body diagrams to analyze the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and attempting to clarify the setup. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of free-body diagrams, but there is no consensus on the approach to solving the problem.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the given parameters, particularly the relationship between the swing's height and the length of the vine. There is uncertainty about the equations to use and the assumptions underlying the problem.

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Homework Statement



Tarzan, who weighs 678 N, swings from a cliff at the end of a convenient vine that is 19.0 m long (see the figure). From the top of the cliff to the bottom of the swing, he descends by 3.2 m. If the vine doesn't break, what is the maximum of the tension in the vine?
answer=906 N

The vine will break if the force on it exceeds 816.3 N. Does the vine break? If yes, at what angle does it break (if no enter 180. deg)?


Homework Equations



not really sure, maybe T=mg+2mg(1-cos(theta))

The Attempt at a Solution


I am completely stumped on part 2, i tried looking up the question online and found someone saying to use T=mg+2mg(1-cos(theta)) but after plugging the information into that i see that it does not work(or i am doing something wrong).
 
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How can he only descend 3.2m to the bottom of the swing if the rope is 19m?
 
juggalomike said:

Homework Statement



Tarzan, who weighs 678 N, swings from a cliff at the end of a convenient vine that is 19.0 m long (see the figure). From the top of the cliff to the bottom of the swing, he descends by 3.2 m. If the vine doesn't break, what is the maximum of the tension in the vine?
answer=906 N

The vine will break if the force on it exceeds 816.3 N. Does the vine break? If yes, at what angle does it break (if no enter 180. deg)?


Homework Equations



not really sure, maybe T=mg+2mg(1-cos(theta))

The Attempt at a Solution


I am completely stumped on part 2, i tried looking up the question online and found someone saying to use T=mg+2mg(1-cos(theta)) but after plugging the information into that i see that it does not work(or i am doing something wrong).

I take it that you've figured out part 1? For part 2, draw a free-body diagram on the monkey and write out Newton's second law.
 
would i draw 2 FBDs? one when he starts the swing and 1 at the bottom of the swing?
 

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