Taxpayers funding Christian anti-science private schools

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The discussion centers around the implications of public funding for private religious schools, particularly those that teach anti-science curricula, such as the case of Eternity Christian Academy in Louisiana. Participants express concerns about the use of taxpayer dollars for education that contradicts established scientific understanding, including the teaching of creationism and the Loch Ness Monster as part of the science syllabus.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that using public tax dollars for private religious schools is fundamentally wrong, emphasizing that education should be secular and based on established science.
  • Others express disbelief that curricula including the Loch Ness Monster are being used to debunk evolution, questioning the educational standards upheld by such institutions.
  • A few participants suggest that the extreme examples presented may not represent the broader private school voucher system, advocating for a more nuanced examination of the issue.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of minimum educational standards at the state and local levels, leading to the potential for misleading or incorrect information being taught to children.
  • Participants express skepticism about the nature of "bible-based math books," with some speculating on how mathematics could be politicized or misrepresented in a religious context.
  • Historical references are made to judicial reviews of school voucher programs, highlighting ongoing legal and constitutional debates regarding the separation of church and state in education.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that public funding for religious-based education is problematic, but there is no consensus on the broader implications or the effectiveness of the private school voucher system as a whole. Multiple competing views remain regarding the validity and representation of the examples cited.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the current educational framework, including the potential violation of the First Amendment concerning public funds being used for religious education. There are also references to historical court cases that have shaped the discussion around school vouchers and religious education.

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skeptic2 said:
Evo, I wonder to what extent these private schools are allowed to discriminate. Can they accept only the students with the top grades? If so, they would be able to compare the performance of their students to those of the public schools and declare how much better they are. Public schools could be left with a majority of under performers.

Are they, as a private religious school, allowed to refuse admittance to students not of the same denomination as the school? Are they allowed to expel students who don't uphold the school's religious values, e.g. homosexual students or who hold conflicting religious beliefs, e.g. Jehovah's Witnesses who don't salute the flag?
That's the problem, there is no education standard for private schools. Each state handles things differently. As far as to what they can get away with, I don't know if there is any tracking.

As far as educational standards, here's an article on New York.

Private and parochial schools -- from small church-run academies to prestigious Manhattan prep schools -- educate about 15 percent of all school-age children in New York State, or 485,453 in 1997. While state law requires these schools to provide an education at least equal in quality to that of public schools, they are largely free to establish their own curriculums and methods and do not have to administer state assessment tests.

Public schools, too, are pressing the state to include the nonpublic schools in the new requirements, saying students will otherwise leave the public schools for less demanding private ones.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/26/n...dards-for-diplomas.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
 

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