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The discussion revolves around determining the degree of the Maclaurin polynomial needed to approximate the function \( e^{0.3} \) such that the error in the approximation is less than 0.001. Participants explore the application of Taylor's theorem and the remainder term in the context of polynomial approximations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the problem and uncertainty about the method to use for solving it.
  • Another participant explains the concept of the remainder in Taylor series and provides a formula for the error term, suggesting that the goal is to find \( n \) such that \( \frac{0.3^{(n+1)}}{(n+1)!} < 0.001 \).
  • A participant proposes that the derivatives of the function at \( c=0 \) yield the \( n+1 \) derivative as 1, leading to the expression for the remainder \( R_n = \frac{1}{(n+1)!} \cdot (0.3)^{(n+1)} \).
  • Another participant confirms the approach and suggests rounding up \( n \) to ensure it is an integer, while also prompting further exploration of approximating other functions with specified error bounds.
  • A later reply reiterates the remainder concept and adjusts the explanation, emphasizing the need to solve \( \frac{e^{u}}{(n+1)!} < 0.001 \) without needing to determine \( u \) directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to find \( n \) for the Maclaurin polynomial, but there is no consensus on the specific value of \( n \) as one participant suggests \( n = 3 \) while others have not confirmed this value.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the dependence of the error on the choice of \( n \) and the implications of rounding \( n \) up. There is also a mention of different functions and error thresholds, indicating that the discussion may extend beyond the initial problem.

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Use Taylor's theorem to determine the degree of the Maclaurin polynomial required for the error in the approximation of the function to be less than .001.

e^.3

I really, really don't know what to do for this one, and I have a quiz tomorrow. I have read through the section in the book, but I am frustrated and can't figure out what kind of method I should use to solve these types of problems.
 
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Do you know the remainder?
exp(x)=1+x+x^2/2+x^3/6+x^4/24+...+x^n/n!+R
R is the error and can be written different ways for different situations
ie
R=f^(n+1)(u)/(n+1)!
ie the formula can be made exact by evaluating the final term at x* with 0<=u<=x for some x* in the case of exp we have terms like x^k/k! so the remainder looks like
u^(n+1)/(n+1)!
it is usually hard to find u so we instead chose n so that u des not mater ie
we want n so that
u^(n+1)/(n+1)!<.001
we do not know u but we know (since exp is increasing on [0,.3])
u^(n+1)/(n+1)!<.3^(n+1)/(n+1)!
so that if
.3^(n+1)/(n+1)!<.001
then
u^(n+1)/(n+1)!<.001
so we do not need u, but we may end up with n larger than needed
solve
.3^(n+1)/(n+1)!<.001
for n
then the maclaurin polynomial of degree n has error<.001
 
So is the procedure to take the derivatives and plug in 0 (since c=0) and find an expression for the n+1 derivative?

f'(c) = 1 f''(c)=1 f'''(c) =1 ...

so the n+1 derivative is 1

So Rn= 1/(n+1)! * (.3) ^(n+1)

Then I set up an equality to find n so that Rn < .001

and n = 3 ?
 
yes
we also want n an integer, so just round up
that is take the first n so that
.3^(n+1)/(n+1)!<.001

do you see how you might do
say
approximate
1/(1-x)
at x=1.1 to an error less than .005
or approximate
sin(x) at x=.001 to an error less than .00001
 
sorry we should have

Do you know the remainder?
exp(x)=1+x+x^2/2+x^3/6+x^4/24+...+x^n/n!+R
R is the error and can be written different ways for different situations
ie
R=f^(n+1)(u)/(n+1)!
ie the formula can be made exact by evaluating the final term at x* with 0<=u<=x for some x* in the case of exp we have terms like x^k/k! so the remainder looks like
e^u/(n+1)!
it is usually hard to find u so we instead chose n so that u des not mater ie
we want n so that
e^u/(n+1)!<.001
we do not know u but we know (since exp is increasing on [0,.3])
u^(n+1)/(n+1)!<e^.3/(n+1)!
so that if
e^.3/(n+1)!<.001
then
e^u/(n+1)!<.001
so we do not need u, but we may end up with n larger than needed
solve
e^u/(n+1)!<.001
for n
then the maclaurin polynomial of degree n has error<.001
 

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