Tension in a Rope: Calculate Force for 20kg

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The problem involves calculating the tension in a rope supporting a 20kg box under different conditions: stationary, moving upwards at a constant speed, and moving upwards with acceleration. The subject area pertains to dynamics and forces, specifically tension and gravitational force.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the concept of tension and its relationship to force, particularly in the context of gravity. Some participants clarify that tension is the upward force acting on the box, while the weight acts downward. There is discussion about the importance of free body diagrams to visualize these forces.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the concept of tension and its direction relative to other forces. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of free body diagrams and Newton's laws, which may help the original poster in their understanding.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the concept of tension and its application in the problem, indicating a need for foundational understanding. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the signs used in calculations.

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First post, so be nice :P

Homework Statement


A box with mas of 20kg is hanging from a rope on a building site. Calculate tension when:
a) Stationary
b)Moving upwards at consteant speed of 6m/s
c)Moving upwards with accelleration of 6m/s

Homework Equations


f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know as i have never seen 'tension' used in a question before but i am guessing that for a) you take acceleration as -9.8m/s2 (gravity) and work out force. for b) same as a and c) is -9.8+6 and then into equation.

I am quite new to this (as you can tell) and got confused with tension. I am currently taking tension as the quivilent of force.Am i right? (P.S: I could use 9.8 as acceleration if i wanted positive answer).
 
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Yes. The tension is the force pulling up on the box. The other force acting is the weight of the box, down. You must draw a free body diagram that identifies both forces, and solve for the unknown tension force using Newton's first law (Fnet = 0) or
2nd law (Fnet = ma), as applicable. Please watch your directions and use of plus and minus signs. Don't take any shortcuts.
 
so tension is the upward force not downward?
 
some_guy said:
so tension is the upward force not downward?
Yes, it acts upward on the box. Tension forces always pull away from the objects they act on. When you isolate the box in a free body diagram, the weight acts down on the box, toward the center of the earth, and the tension force pulls up on the box, toward the top. I understand your confusion; if you look at the hook at the top to which the rope is attached, the tension force, pulling away from the hook, acts down (per Newton 3). It is important to isolate the object in question with a good free body diagram.
 
right thanks for the help! It has cleared up everything perfectly!
 

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