Tension in Cables Supporting a Watermelon on Scaffolding

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving tension in cables supporting a watermelon placed on a scaffolding. The scenario includes a watermelon weighing 8.9 kg, a scaffolding of 6.1 m, and the need to determine the tension in two supporting cables while considering the forces and torques acting on the system.

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  • Participants discuss the equilibrium conditions of the system, noting that the sum of forces and torques must equal zero. There are attempts to convert the weight of the watermelon into a force and questions about how to apply distances to find the tension in the cables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on applying equilibrium equations and torque considerations. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of forces, but no consensus has been reached on the specific tensions in the cables.

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Participants are navigating through the constraints of the problem, including the need to consider the system's equilibrium and the correct application of physical principles without providing direct solutions.

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An 8.9kg watermelon is placed at one end of a 6.1m, 238 N scaffolding supported by two cables. One supporting cable is at the opposite end of the scaffolding, and the other is 0.76 m from the watermelon. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2.

How much tension is in the cable at the end of the scaffolding?
How much tension is in the cable closest to the watermelon?

I really have no clue how to go about this. Any relevant formulas I should know?
 
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The system is in equilibrium. Sum of forces in y direction and sum of torques about any point must equal zero. Don't forget the torque from the scaffolding .
 
For equilibrium of a body:
1. ΣF = 0
2. ΣT = 0
where, F is the force and T is the torque.
(bold ones are vector quantities.)
 
ok well with the watermelon converted over to N I've got a total of 325.28N * 9.8m/s^2 = 3187.744 for my downward force. If that is correct then how do I apply the distance from the melon to figure the tension on the individual cables?
 
galuda said:
ok well with the watermelon converted over to N I've got a total of 325.28N * 9.8m/s^2 = 3187.744 for my downward force. If that is correct then how do I apply the distance from the melon to figure the tension on the individual cables?

Remember: Always try to be atleast dimensionally correct!
How come, "325.28N * 9.8m/s^2 = 3187.744 for my downward force"?? You must be knowing, unit of force is N.. then how, N * m/s^2 = N??
In fact, if tensions in the strings are T1 and T2, then
T1 + T2 = 238N + 8.9kg*9.8m/s^2 = 325.22N.

Now, take torque about any point and equate to zero to get one more equation involving T1 and/or T2. Then, solve for T1 and T2 from the two equations obtained. It would be quicker if you take torque about the point where the cable meets scaffolding (either of them).
 
ah ok sorry about that. Thank yall very much for the assistance.
 

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