Tension in Conveyor Belt due to weight placed on it

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on determining the tension in a conveyor belt due to the weight of material placed on it. Participants explore how this tension affects motor power requirements and the necessary tensioning force. The conversation includes considerations of frictional forces, sagging of the belt, and the impact of the belt's support structure.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the tension can be calculated as the sum of the material weight and belt weight multiplied by gravitational acceleration and the coefficient of friction.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of a catenary formed by the belt when material is placed continuously, suggesting that sagging affects tension.
  • A different viewpoint asserts that if the belt does not sag, the tension due to weight would be infinite, indicating that sagging is necessary to define tension.
  • Participants discuss the types of friction involved, questioning whether it pertains to bearing friction in rollers or belt-roller interface friction.
  • One participant notes that the belt is supported by a mesh grid, which minimizes sag and suggests that this changes the calculations for tension.
  • Another participant emphasizes that sagging should not occur in properly supported conveyor belts and states that sag tension is a constant force not affecting the power needed to operate the belt.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of sagging in relation to tension calculations and the types of friction that should be considered. There is no consensus on the correct approach to calculating tension or the implications of sagging.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about the system, such as the negligible sag due to the support grid and the slow speed of the belt. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on which friction forces are relevant for the calculations.

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Hello,

I am trying to determine the tension in a belt conveyor transporting material to calculate the motor power required and also tensioning force needed on it. I wanted to know how the material weight that is being carried affects it. I considered the tension to be equal to the friction force due to material weight as well as the belt weight. So assuming the material wt. = Wm lbm and belt wt. = Wt lbm, the frictional resistance will be = (Wm+Wt)x g x μ. Is this correct? What other forces do I need to take into account?

I have attached a schematic diagram of the problem.

Thank you.
 

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If the material is placed continuously along the belt then you have a catenary between supporting rollers.
As the sag allowed between rollers increases, the tension in the belt rapidly reduces to a reasonable value.
 
A free body diagram will show that If the belt does not sag the tension due to the weight is infinite..
So clearly the belt will sag - And how much it sags will define the tension.

What friction are you trying to find? The bearing friction in the rollers? The belt-roller interface friction?
These may help for the former:
http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Tribology/Bearing Friction.html
http://www.skf.com/group/products/b...ings/principles/friction/skf-model/index.html

For the latter, the belt-roller friction is really only important for the driven roller (assuming that's how it's driven), the belt-roller friction at the idler rollers should only become relevant during bearing failure - assuming your bearing selection is acceptable.
 
If the material is placed continuously along the belt then you have a catenary between supporting rollers.

Oh, I forgot to mention that the belt is traveling over a 3"x3" mesh support grid of 1/8" SS rods. So the sag is pretty much negligible. The frictional force that I am considering is the resistance to the belt sliding over the mesh while carrying a constant layer of material. The speed is also pretty slow, about 2 ft/min.

I also found this webpage : http://www.brighthubengineering.com...nsite-calculations-for-conveyor-belt-systems/

Does this equation account for the friction resistance or do I need to add it to calculate the total effective tension?

Thanks.
 
achan88 said:
Oh, I forgot to mention that the belt is traveling over a 3"x3" mesh support grid of 1/8" SS rods. So the sag is pretty much negligible.
That is a game changer.
achan88 said:
= (Wm+Wt)x g x μ.
That is enough to estimate the tension if the belt only moves material horizontally.
 
A couple of things:
1. A conveyor belt that is allowed to sag is not being properly supported. They should never be allowed to sag.
2. Even if it did sag, that has nothing to do with the power needed to make it run because the sag tension is a constant force that is equal everywhere and is static: it exists whether the belt is moving or not and isn't affected by the motion.
 

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