Tension in Suspended Traffic Light Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the tension in cables supporting a suspended traffic light. Participants are exploring the relationship between tension and weight, particularly in the context of different angles of the cables.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the assumption that the tensions in the y-direction for both cables are equal. There is a discussion about analyzing the weight in two directions and the implications of different angles on the tension values.

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Some participants have provided hints and alternative perspectives on the problem, suggesting that the analysis may need to consider the angles of the cables more closely. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which tensions might be equal.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the angles of the cables are different, which affects the tension calculations. There is also mention of the total tension needing to balance the weight, leading to further questions about the setup of the problem.

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Weight = Tension in y direction??

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I thought that W = the tension in the y direction of the two cables so that T2y and T1y are both 20 N each. Thus, i calculated that the tension in AC is 33 N ( cos(53.1) = 20/T1 --> T1 = 20/ cos(53.1) = 33N

But the answer is 24? What is wrong with my answer?[/B]
 

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Hello,

T1y is not equal to T2y.

Hint : The problem becomes easier if you analyse W in two directions (1 on the AC line and 1 on the AB line).
 
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Hello,

T1y is not equal to T2y.

Hint : The problem becomes easier if you analyse W in two directions (1 on the AC line and 1 on the AB line).
Wouldn't it make sense if they are equal though? I'm just surprised since I would've immediately assumed that they were the same... in what cases would they be the same? But, i do understand that T1y + T2y = W right?

Nevermind, i think i understand that they both wouldn't be T=20 because they are at different angles
 
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But the angles with the y-axis are different for each cable. If the angles were 45 degrees, the cables would have the same length and then T1y=T2y=20 N.

Of course, their sum is equal to 40 (because ΣFy=0).
 
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Lori said:
Wouldn't it make sense if they are equal though?
It often helps to consider a more extreme example. What if one cable were vertical, or very nearly?
 

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