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The discussion revolves around the classification of mesons, specifically addressing why spin 0 mesons are considered pseudo-scalar and spin 1 mesons are classified as vector particles. Participants explore the implications of these classifications, the nature of observables in quantum field theory, and the equations governing these particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the classification of spin 0 mesons as pseudo-scalar and spin 1 mesons as vector, suggesting that spin 0 mesons could also be scalar and spin 1 mesons pseudo-vector.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of observables, with some arguing that observables can be linear operators, allowing for the detection of parity changes in fields.
  • One participant mentions that the Standard-Model Higgs could be an example of a scalar spin-0 particle, while pions are identified as negative parity due to their quark-antiquark composition.
  • Another participant points out that the sigma meson is a somewhat controversial example of a spin-0 scalar, and discusses how the intrinsic negative parity of quark-antiquark combinations influences the classification of mesons.
  • It is noted that parity is determined experimentally, with reference to the pion's classification as a pseudoscalar based on angular distributions in specific particle interactions.

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Participants express differing views on the classification of mesons, indicating that multiple competing models and interpretations exist regarding the nature of spin 0 and spin 1 mesons. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

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Participants highlight the complexity of determining parity and the role of experimental evidence in classifying mesons, indicating that assumptions about intrinsic properties and observable characteristics may vary.

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Why are spin 0 mesons pseudo-scalar, and spin 1 mesons vector?

Why can't spin 0 mesons be scalar, and spin 1 mesons be pseudo-vector?

If observables are bilinear in the fields, then how can you even detect whether a field is pseudo-scalar, since [tex]\phi^2[/tex] is a scalar no matter if the meson field is pseudo-scalar or scalar?

Also, is it correct to assume that spin 0 mesons obey the Klein-Gordan equation, and spin 1 mesons obey the Maxwell equations but with a mass term, i.e., [tex]\mathcal L=-\frac{1}{4} F_{\mu \nu}F^{\mu \nu}-\frac{m}{2}A_\mu A^\mu[/tex]?
 
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As these mesons have integer spin, they are bosons and the observables don't have to be bilinear but also linear operators may be observables. So you could detect the change of the sign of phi under parity.
 
It's possible for spin-0 particles to be scalar (positive parity). If it exists, the Standard-Model Higgs would be.

Pions are the like are negative parity because they are quark-antiquark composites in an orbital ground state.
Quark: +
Antiquark: -
Spin-0 orbit: +
Total: -
 
RedX said:
Why are spin 0 mesons pseudo-scalar, and spin 1 mesons vector?

Why can't spin 0 mesons be scalar, and spin 1 mesons be pseudo-vector?

If observables are bilinear in the fields, then how can you even detect whether a field is pseudo-scalar, since [tex]\phi^2[/tex] is a scalar no matter if the meson field is pseudo-scalar or scalar?
1. Spin zero mesons can be scalar. The (somewhat controversal) sigma meson is a spin zero scalar. In the quark model, the quark-antiquark combination has intrinsic negative parity. This makes the quark model mesons as 0^- and 1^-, pseudoscalar and vector.

2. Parity is determined experimentally in transitions.
The pion was originally determined to be a pseudoscalar from angular distributions in N+N-->N+N+pi/
 

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