Test the following series for convergence or divergence

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The discussion revolves around testing the series ##\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac {\sqrt n} {e^\sqrt n}## for convergence or divergence, with participants exploring various methods and reasoning related to series convergence in the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of the Integral Test and express a desire for simpler methods. Some question the effectiveness of d'Alembert's criterion, noting that it yields an inconclusive result. There are also attempts to find a suitable comparison series.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the Integral Test and exploring various approaches. Some have provided detailed calculations, while others are considering alternative methods and comparisons. There is no explicit consensus on a single method yet.

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Participants mention constraints such as the desire for simpler methods and the need for comparison series. There is also a reference to the upcoming study of power series in a textbook, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may influence the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Test the following series for convergence or divergence.

##\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac {\sqrt n} {e^\sqrt n}##

Homework Equations


None that I'm aware of.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know I can use the Integral Test for this, but I was hoping for a simpler way.
 
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Entertainment Unit said:

Homework Statement


Test the following series for convergence or divergence.

##\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac {\sqrt n} {e^\sqrt n}##

Homework Equations


None that I'm aware of.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know I can use the Integral Test for this, but I was hoping for a simpler way.

Intuitively, it should converge because of the exponential in the denominator. I think integral test is fine here. I tried d'Alembert's criterion but unless I made a mistake by being too quick the limit gives 1 so the test is inclusive.

I am still looking for something to compare the series with.
 
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Entertainment Unit said:

Homework Statement


Test the following series for convergence or divergence.

##\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac {\sqrt n} {e^\sqrt n}##

Homework Equations


None that I'm aware of.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know I can use the Integral Test for this, but I was hoping for a simpler way.

So, what did the integral test give you?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
So, what did the integral test give you?
Point taken, I need to get over my laziness and just calculate the integral. I was hoping for one of those "why couldn't / didn't I think of that" moments in the form of a series to use to compare the given series with.
 
Ray Vickson said:
So, what did the integral test give you?
Let ##f(x) = \frac {\sqrt x} {e^\sqrt x}##

Note f is a continuous, positive function on ##[1, \infty)##

Note also that ##\frac {d} {dx} f(x) = \frac {1 - \sqrt x} {2e^{\sqrt x} \sqrt x} \leq 0## when ## x \geq 1 \implies## f is a decreasing function.

Let ##u = e^{-\sqrt x} \implies du = \frac {-e^{-\sqrt x}} {2 \sqrt x} dx##

Let ##dv = \sqrt x \, dx \implies v = \frac {2x^{\frac 3 2}} {3}##

Let ##o = -\sqrt x\implies dx = 2o\,do##

Let ##s = o \implies ds = do##

Let ##dt = e^o \, do \implies t = e^o##

Let ##q = x \implies dq = dx##

Let ##dr = e^o \, dx \implies r = 2t(s - 1)##

##\int f \, dx##
##= \int \sqrt x e^{-\sqrt x} dx##
##= \int u \, dv##
##= uv - \int v \, du##
##= uv - \frac 1 3 \int q \, dr##
##= uv - \frac 1 3 (qr - \int r \, dq)##
##= uv - \frac 1 3 (qr - \int 2t(s - 1)) \, dx##
##= uv - \frac 1 3 (qr - 2(\int oe^o \, dx - \int e^o dx))##​

##\int \sqrt x e^{-\sqrt x} dx = uv + \frac {qr} 3 + \frac 2 3 \int \sqrt x e^{-\sqrt x} \, dx + \frac 2 3 \int e^{-\sqrt x} \, dx##
##\frac 1 3 \int \sqrt x e^{-\sqrt x} \, dx = uv + \frac {qr} 3 + \frac {2r} 3##
##\int \sqrt x e^{-\sqrt x} \, dx = 2e^{-\sqrt x}x^{\frac 3 2} + 2xt(s - 1) + 4t(s - 1)##
##= 2(e^{-\sqrt x} x^{\frac 3 2} + e^{-\sqrt x}(-\sqrt x - 1)(x + 2))##
##= -2e^{-\sqrt x}(x + 2\sqrt x + 2) + C##​

Applying the Integral Test,
##\lim_{t\to\infty} \int_{1}^{t} e^{-\sqrt x} \sqrt x \, dx##
##= \lim_{t\to\infty} -2e^{-\sqrt x}(x + 2\sqrt x + 2)\vert_{1}^{t}##
##= -2(\lim_{t\to\infty} \frac {t + 2\sqrt t + 2} {e^{\sqrt t}} - \frac 5 e)##
##= -2(\lim_{t\to\infty} \frac {1 + \frac 2 {\sqrt t} + \frac 2 t} {\frac {e^{\sqrt t}} t} - \frac 5 e)##
##= -2(\lim_{t\to\infty} \frac 1 {\frac {e^{\sqrt t}} t} - \frac 5 e)##
##= -2(\lim_{t\to\infty} \frac {t} {e^{\sqrt t}} - \frac 5 e)##
##= -2(2\lim_{t\to\infty} \frac 1 {e^{\sqrt t}} - \frac 5 e)##
##= -2(2 \cdot 0 - \frac 5 e)##
##= \frac {10} e \implies## the improper integral is convergent.​
##\implies## the given series is convergent by the Integral Test.
 
hmmmm,
Entertainment Unit said:
I know I can use the Integral Test for this, but I was hoping for a simpler way.
my vote we be to note that for ##x \gt 0##, we have
##0\lt \frac{1}{6!}x^6 \leq e^x##
justification: look at power series

inverting, then
## \frac{1}{e^x} \leq 6! \frac{1}{x^6}##

selecting ##x := \sqrt{n}## and rescaling each side of the inequality by ##\sqrt{n}##
there's an immediate pointwise bound, for ##n \geq 2##

which you can bound above by something very nice
(hint: make use of ##n\geq 2## for something nice)

then sum over the bound
 
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StoneTemplePython said:
hmmmm, ...
Thank you, the next section in my textbook is entitled "Power Series" so once I'm done this set of exercises, I'll work through that and come back to your post. Thanks again!
 
Entertainment Unit said:
Thank you, the next section in my textbook is entitled "Power Series" so once I'm done this set of exercises, I'll work through that and come back to your post. Thanks again!

oh ok -- out of curiosity, what do they define ##e## or the exponential function as? (Maybe just a black box right now?)

the something nice I had mind, by the way is that

##\sum_{j=2}^m \frac{1}{j(j-1)} = 1 - \frac{1}{m}##
this is a very nice telescoping sum and a good little exercise if you have the time. Maybe you've already seen it before in class.

so
##\lim_{m\to \infty}\sum_{j=2}^m \frac{1}{j(j-1)}= \sum_{j=2}^\infty \frac{1}{j(j-1)} = 1 ##
 

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