News Texas to Charge Cheaper In State College Tuition to Illegal Immigrants

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Texas plans to offer reduced college tuition rates to illegal immigrants, sparking debate on the financial implications for taxpayers and legal students. Supporters argue that investing in education for immigrants could ultimately reduce long-term welfare costs, while critics express concern that it shifts financial burdens onto legal residents and taxpayers. The discussion highlights the tension between humanitarian concerns for immigrants and the perceived injustice of subsidizing education for those who entered the country illegally. Some participants advocate for stricter border control and temporary work visas instead of educational subsidies. The effectiveness and fairness of this tuition policy remain contentious points in the ongoing immigration debate.
  • #51
drankin said:
Technically, that is not actually true. It is a myth. Just because you happen to be born in the US does not grant you immediate citizenship. A lot of people believe that and some states might even ignorantly practice that but it is not true... now I have to find references :)

I'm going to take that back. It's more of a loop-hole at this point in time. The original intention of the 14th Amendment was that the children of blacks and former slaves were given citizenship. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters4608

It's obviously something we need to define. If you are an illegal parent, your children should not be given citizenship simply because of the location you gave birth. The term used is "Anchor Babies". It's unethical. Children born here by illegal mothers should be deported with their parents.
 
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  • #52
drankin said:
Technically, that is not actually true. It is a myth. Just because you happen to be born in the US does not grant you immediate citizenship. A lot of people believe that and some states might even ignorantly practice that but it is not true... now I have to find references :)

But legally it is true. The 14th amendment says so. They are now commonly known as Anchor Babies. This has always been going on but never became an issue until recently.

In years past a woman would cross the border just to give birth to her child , then go back to Mexico with the baby. This gave the child more options, such as attending American schools in border towns and coming here to work as an adult.

A Mexican woman can come here on a short term visa, give birth to a baby and it is automatically a U.S. citizen. She will typically leave the baby with relatives. Those relatives are usually already living and working in this country illegally. Then her entire family can easily get a visa to come here and visit the baby. Then they simply stay.

It beats the hell out of getting robbed while crossing the border, then being stuffed along with 40 other illegals into a drop house in Phoenix and being held for ransom.

Our more recent entrants are coming from further south, well down into central America. They haven't learned all of the tricks yet. They get robbed in Mexico and are then are forced by drug gangs to carry drugs over the border. In many recent incidents the illegals have been used by the drug gangs to divert the attention of the Border Patrol away from an area where drugs are being smuggled into the country.
 
  • #53
I'd rather we throw money away than do something as unfair as this. Oh, you mean just because they are here illegally and have never paid US taxes, they can get a cheaper education, oh what a great idea! I have had a job for half a year and have paid more in taxes than those illegals have! My parents sure as hell have paid a hell of a lot more, and yet if I were to get an education in Texas (or California, I think they have something similar in some of the state colleges), it would cost me at least three times as much. Only because I have been here legally.
 
  • #54
russ_watters said:
Another fast-moving thread that I didn't read all of, but could someone clarify what this law actually does, please? The title of the thread (and article) says "illegal immigrants", but in the article itself it says "children of illegal immigrants", and those are two different things entirely if that implies the kids are actually citizens. Regardless of opinions on illegal immigration, if the kids were born here, they're citizens and need to be treated as such.

There was no law passed. Only an attempt that was thwarted. Business as usual in Texas is to charge every one who meets the state's residency requirements to be allowed to attend state universities and pay in state tuition. That determination is made by the university by examination of a document presented by the student. (Yes, its that easy!)

http://info.sos.state.tx.us/fids/200600550-1.pdf

If they have any questions they "may" ask for documentation.

http://info.sos.state.tx.us/fids/200600550-2.html

As for the law allowing the 'children' of illegal aliens to attend school, that was a spin put on the story by the reporter. The text of the proposed law never mentioned children of illegal immigrants. Read for yourself...

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/05/10/10immigtuition.html

edit: Mexican citizens have the right to attend Texas Universities and pay in state tuition if they can show a financial need.

http://www.admissions.txstate.edu/_undergrad/resident_require.htm#exceptions
 
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