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The discussion centers around the validity of the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) hypothesis, referencing various articles and data on global temperature trends. Participants explore claims regarding recent temperature changes, the impact of natural phenomena like La Niña, and the credibility of peer-reviewed studies related to climate science.

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  • Some participants assert that there has been no significant global warming, citing a lack of temperature increase over the past decade despite rising CO2 emissions.
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  • A participant mentions an error in temperature data processing that, when corrected, indicates a warming trend rather than a cooling one.
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Participants exhibit significant disagreement regarding the interpretation of climate data and the validity of the AGW hypothesis. Multiple competing views are presented, with no consensus reached on the overall trends or implications of the data discussed.

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Participants reference various sources, including peer-reviewed articles and news reports, but there are unresolved questions about the accuracy and interpretation of the data. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the influence of human activity versus natural climate variability.

  • #61
I have been reading this page and quite honestly i have a headache trying to sort out who is right.

http://www.john-daly.com/index.htm

STILL WAITING FOR GREENHOUSE.
 
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  • #62
wolram said:
I have been reading this page and quite honestly i have a headache trying to sort out who is right.

http://www.john-daly.com/index.htm

STILL WAITING FOR GREENHOUSE.

Same with this thread. :wink::smile:

Both sides have very valid points the trouble is neither side is 100% sure.

Is John L. Daly André's real name. :-p
 
  • #63
John Daly deceased in 2004. His son is maintaining the webside. He was a great pioneer, daring to challenge believe, practically on is his own, alone, don't even think EXXON. And isn't that what science is all about? Facts and figures, not gut feeling?
 
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  • #65
But there is also this.
 
  • #66
Or http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48972".
 
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  • #67
The Onion? Is that peer reviewed or satire?
 
  • #68
Andre said:
The Onion? Is that peer reviewed or satire?

Very dry satire

Here's a very good poke by them at victim statistics.

Millions and Millions
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29456
 
  • #69
Andre said:
The Onion? Is that peer reviewed or satire?

I'd say it is peer reviewed at least. :smile: Satire, well obviously :smile:
 

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