Thawing Frozen Meat: The Fur vs. Water Method

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The discussion revolves around methods for thawing frozen meat, specifically comparing the use of fur versus running water. Participants explore the effectiveness of these methods, considering factors such as thermal conductivity and the properties of meat.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that wrapping frozen meat in fur allows it to thaw faster than running it under cold water at 10°C (52°F).
  • Another participant questions the practicality and effectiveness of using fur, suggesting that running water provides a faster energy transfer for thawing.
  • A participant discusses the importance of thermal conductivity and the risk of cooking the exterior of the meat before the interior is thawed when using heat sources.
  • There is a suggestion that the melting point of meat may be higher than that of water, which could complicate the thawing process with cold water.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the fur method, proposing that insulation would not aid in thawing compared to direct exposure to running water.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of conducting an experiment to test the claims about thawing speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of using fur versus water for thawing meat. Multiple competing views remain, with some supporting the fur method and others advocating for the use of running water.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the thermal properties of meat and the implications of using different thawing methods. There are also misunderstandings about terminology, such as the use of "four" instead of "oven."

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The fact is, that if you get frozen meat and you have to de-freeze it, you will de-freeze it faster, if you pack it into the fur, than if you get it under flowinf water with temperature 10°C = 52F.. WHY?
 
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That's fine as long as you don't get a stubble burn.
 
russ_watters said:
Fur? Huh? I only eat de-furred meat. :confused:

Do you understand my question?
 
If it is a classical oven, it does not make much difference from water, but it depends on the temperature of the four and of the water. But to de-freeze the interior of the meat heat must pass form the exterior to the interior and it depends on the thermal conductivity of the frozen and not frozen meat. If you try to go faster you will cook the outside before the inside is de-frozen. You could call it "reverse meat profiteroles".
Microwave oven do better because they heat the inside of the frozen meat. But, as they heat better water than ice, you always risk the "reverse meat profiteroles".
 
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Hmm. You have some frozen meat in a fridge, you take it out and want to de-freeze it, so you pack it to the really fur (for example from the bear).
I just thought, if the melting point of the meat isn't a bit higher than MP of water, maybe higher than 10°C (52F). Than you can't never de-freeze meat with so cold water, and problem is solved.
 
just...DVL said:
Do you understand my question?
Clearly, no. Your english isn't very good. Are you saying literally that you wrap the meat in an animal's fur? I've never heard of such a thing, but the meat would certainly not thaw faster that way than if it is run under cold water.

Meat is mostly water, but it has things dissolved in it (such as salt), which lowers the melting point. Running it under cold water provides a relatively fast transfer of energy and thawing time could be cut to perhaps a tenth of what it is if you just leave the meat sitting out.
 
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lpfr said:
If it is a classical four...
Could you explain to me what this "four" is?
 
Yes, you have classic meat from the shop and you pack it into the animal skin... Maybe i should make some experiment...
 
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Sorry, OVEN
 
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Ok, I've never heard of that...

Perhaps you should experiment, though, because it most certainly will not thaw faster insulated than uninsulated, much less with water running over it to pull heat away even faster! I don't see why you would think it would thaw faster when insulated. What is your reasoning?
 
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I red somewhere, that this is true. Maybe its faster in the fur, if the meat is very small, so mabye it is just a gimmick
 
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Maybe someone thought that if a fur keeps us warm, it will also keep frozen meat warm! Soooooo obviously wrong!
 

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