The adjoint representation of a semisimple Lie algebra is completely reducible

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The discussion revolves around the proof of the claim that the adjoint representation of a semisimple Lie algebra is completely reducible. Participants explore various arguments and reasoning related to invariant subspaces, the Killing form, and the properties of ideals within the context of Lie algebras.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if S is an invariant subspace, then the structure constants of the form {f_{ir}}^{s} are zero.
  • Another participant questions whether it is reasonable to expect that the bracket [X, Y] is in both S and its complement, suggesting that this would imply [X, Y] = 0.
  • A later reply discusses the orthogonal complement S^{\perp} and argues that if S^{\perp} is an ideal, then [S, S^{\perp}] must be contained in S ∩ S^{\perp}.
  • It is noted that the invariance of the Killing form leads to the conclusion that [g, x] is in S^{\perp} for any g in the Lie algebra.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the mathematical justification for the physical reasoning that elements in different spaces must commute.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the arguments presented, and there are indications of uncertainty and differing perspectives on the reasoning involved in the proof.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made about the properties of the Killing form and the implications of the structure constants. The discussion reflects a blend of mathematical and physical reasoning, with some participants seeking clarification on the mathematical rigor of the arguments.

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Hi,

I am trying to work through a proof/argument to show that the adjoint representation of a semisimple Lie algebra is completely reducible.

Suppose S denotes an invariant subspace of the Lie algebra, and we pick Y_i in the invariant subspace S. The rest of the generators X_r are such that the natural inner product is (X_r, Y_i) = 0. This can be done by some suitable Gram Schmidt orthogonalization if necessary.

To begin with, I argue that the killing metric in this basis is block diagonal. If i denotes an index on Y and r denotes an index on X, then g_{ir} = 0 as the Killing form is the natural inner product or its negative depending on whether Y is chosen to be symmetric or antisymmetric. This is OK.

But the following argument is unclear to me

Since S is an invariant subspace, structure constants of the form {f_{ir}}^{s} are zero.

Is it reasonable to expect [X, Y] to be in S as well as its complement? The only way then that this would be possible is if [X, Y] = 0.

The other argument (specious to me) is that Y and X live in different spaces so they must commute. This seems physically reasonable, but I don't see how to argue this mathematically.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh and I should point out, I am learning this from the standpoint of a theoretical physicist, so please feel free to point out mistakes/improvements in the reasoning (or holes in my understanding) from a purely mathematical perspective.

Thanks!
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
Hey Greg. I can't think of anything new, but I've kept it on my pending/to-do list. The argument used in the "physicist's proof" I had access to is already listed in my post. I don't have any more information.
 
You have written \mathfrak{g}=S\oplus S^{\perp} as vector spaces where we take the orthogonal complement with respect to the killing form. If we know that S^{\perp} is an ideal, then we will have [S,S^\perp] \subseteq S\cap S^{\perp} since in this case S and S^\perp are both ideals.

To show S^{\perp} is an ideal, let x\in S^\perp, g\in \mathfrak{g}. Then for any s\in S, we know the Killing form is invariant so
\kappa( s, [g,x])=\kappa([s,g],x)\in \kappa(S,x)=0.
where I used the fact that S is an ideal in the second last step and the fact that x\in S^{\perp} in the last step. Hence [g,x]\in S^\perp for any g\in \mathfrak{g} so S^{\perp} is an ideal.

Finally, you may now conclude that [X,Y]=0 since it is equivalent to the fact that S\cap S^{\perp}=\varnothing which follows using the nondegeneracy of the Killing form when restricted to S (which follows from the fact that \mathfrak{g} is semisimple) as you mentioned.
 
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Thank you Terandol!
 

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