The angular momentum operator acting on a wave function

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The discussion revolves around the action of the angular momentum operator on specific wave functions in quantum mechanics, focusing on the eigenvalues associated with these wave functions and the implications of complex conjugation in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two wave functions, \phi_1 and \phi_2, and notes that they yield different eigenvalues when the angular momentum operator L_z acts on them.
  • Another participant questions why the wave functions, which appear to be complex conjugates, do not share the same eigenvalue.
  • A further reply references the complex conjugated eigenvalue equation and discusses the implications of hermitian operators and real eigenvalues.
  • Another participant clarifies that hermitian refers to the adjoint operator rather than the complex conjugate, suggesting that L_z is not invariant under complex conjugation due to the presence of "i".
  • One participant acknowledges understanding the origin of the negative sign in the eigenvalue, linking it to the behavior of the momentum operator under complex conjugation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the wave functions and their eigenvalues, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of complex conjugation and the properties of the angular momentum operator.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the nuances of hermitian operators and their behavior under complex conjugation, as well as the specific mathematical forms of the wave functions involved.

Jerrynap
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Hi guys, I need help on interpreting this solution.

Let me have two wave functions:
[itex]\phi_1 = N_1(r) (x+iy)[/itex]
[itex]\phi_2 = N_2(r) (x-iy)[/itex]

If the angular momentum acts on both of them, the result will be:

[itex]L_z \phi_1 = \hbar \phi_1[/itex]
[itex]L_z \phi_2 = -\hbar \phi_2[/itex]

My concern is, [itex]\phi_1[/itex] and [itex]\phi_2[/itex] look really like the complex conjugate of each other, so why do they have different eigenvalue?
 
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Jerrynap said:
My concern is, [itex]\phi_1[/itex] and [itex]\phi_2[/itex] look really like the complex conjugate of each other, so why do they have different eigenvalue?
Why should they have the same eigenvalue? Have a look at the complex conjugated eigenvalue equation (A|λ>)* = (λ|λ>)* <=> A*|λ>*=λ|λ>*.
 
kith said:
Why should they have the same eigenvalue? Have a look at the complex conjugated eigenvalue equation (A|λ>)* = (λ|λ>)* <=> A*|λ>*=λ|λ>*.

Well, A* = A (hermitian) and λ is real. So wouldn't it be

[itex] \hat{A}^*\left| λ\right\rangle^* = \hat{A}\left| λ\right\rangle^* = λ\left| λ\right\rangle^* ?[/itex]
 
Jerrynap said:
Well, A* = A (hermitian)
Hermitian refers to the adjoint operator A+ and not to the complex conjugate A*. If you look at Lz in spherical coordinates, you see that it isn't invariant under complex conjugation because it contains an "i".
 
Oh... I see where the negative sign came about. Lz* = -Lz. This can be seen in Cartesian coordinates as well since p* = -p. Thanks kith
 

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