The current state of nanotechnology

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The discussion revolves around the current state of nanotechnology, exploring its relationship with material science, the existence and applications of nanomachinery, and recent advancements in the field. Participants raise questions about the definitions and practical implications of nanotechnology, particularly in relation to MEMS and NEMS technologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether nanotechnology is merely a rebranding of material science and seek clarification on its unique aspects.
  • There is discussion about MEMS (Micro Electronic Mechanical Systems) and their relation to nanotechnology, with some noting that the smallest features of MEMS may approach the nanoscale.
  • Participants inquire about the existence and applications of NEMS (Nano Electronic Mechanical Systems), with one noting that while NEMS is a research field, commercially available devices may not yet exist.
  • One participant mentions that NEMS devices, particularly resonators, could be used for highly sensitive gas detection, potentially outperforming traditional mass spectrometers.
  • Recent advancements in atomic-scale manipulation and creation of molecules, such as triangulene, are highlighted as significant developments that could impact quantum computing and materials science.
  • Another participant expresses optimism about the potential of nanotechnology to cure diseases, although they acknowledge that achieving perfection in this field is still a long way off.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the definitions and applications of nanotechnology, with no clear consensus on whether it is simply a rebranding of material science or if it encompasses broader implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the current capabilities and future potential of nanotechnology.

Contextual Notes

Participants' definitions of nanotechnology and its applications vary, leading to differing opinions on the significance of NEMS and the implications of recent research in atomic manipulation. The discussion reflects a mix of speculative and technical viewpoints without definitive conclusions.

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Hi

My question is not long, but it is very broad; Is nanotechnology simpy just a rebranding of material science?

Is there anything else to it? I have not really seen it used outside chemistry and material science. Do simple nanomachinery exist?

I guess on a more speculative level it exists, but has something actually been created that is more than just another, maybe more advanced, material?
 
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Avatrin said:
Hi

My question is not long, but it is very broad; Is nanotechnology simpy just a rebranding of material science?

Is there anything else to it? I have not really seen it used outside chemistry and material science. Do simple nanomachinery exist?

I guess on a more speculative level it exists, but has something actually been created that is more than just another, maybe more advanced, material?
Do you know how smartphones sense orientation and movement? :smile:
 
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berkeman said:
Do you know how smartphones sense orientation and movement?

Those are usually called MEMS sensors. Micro electronic mechanical systems.

The smallest features of these systems will sometimes push the limits of nano-meter scale.

https://www.foresight.org/nano/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotechnology
https://www.google.com/search?q=nano+technology&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

All indicate that nanotechnology starts at 100nm. Are there any MEMS devises that should more accurately be called NEMS?

BoB
 
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Sure, NEMS is a research field in itself (I have colleagues working on NEMS). That said, I am not sure if there are any commercially available NEMS devices yet.

The answer to your question will depend on your definition of "nanoscience". There is certainly a LOT of work going on using nm sized devices and making electronic devices with feature sizes smaller than 100nm has been routine for a many,many years.
 
What applications are NEMS useful for? Are they the same sort of thing as MEMS only smaller or are there novel applications only achievable at the smaller scale?

BoB
 
I believe the application most frequently mentioned is gas detection; some NEMS resonators are extremely sensitive to any extra mass to the point where they can "sense" even single atoms attaching landing on the resonator. The obvious application of this would be a machine that could the do the job of a mass spectrometer but without having to ionize the particles first (which is a major limitation with current mass specs).

There are also a whole range of fundamental physics experiments where NEMS devices (especially resonators) are used
 
I've been fascinated by this article for sometime, http://www.nature.com/news/fire-up-the-atom-forge-1.21017
"Electron microscopy is on the brink of a transition. Soon the imaging tool could be used to create structures atom by atom. This sort of control over atomic architecture could transform our basic scientific understanding of materials and pave the way to new classes of devices for quantum computing, spin sensing and more".

Today I came across, http://www.nature.com/news/elusive-triangulene-created-by-moving-atoms-one-at-a-time-1.21462
"Researchers at IBM have created an elusive molecule by knocking around atoms using a needle-like microscope tip. The flat, triangular fragment of a mesh of carbon atoms, called triangulene1, is too unstable to be made by conventional chemical synthesis, and could find use in electronics."

Making molecules one at a time might not seem very promising, but Gross points out that current quantum computers, such as the Quantum Experience developed at IBM, use only a handful of quantum bits, or qubits, each of which could correspond to a single molecule. Even if you need to make 100 such molecules "by hand", he says, "it would be worth going through that manual labour".

http://www.nature.com/articles/nnan...HNyBa0G7eKA==&tracking_referrer=www.nature.co
 
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Here is a good article about nanotechnology.
If nanotechnology is perfectly created most disease can be cured.
But we are way far from perfection.
 

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