News The Dangerous Influence of Far-Right Talk Radio on American Politics

[seycyrus]

The O'Reilly Saga, Part 2 of many:
What's the problem with this?

There is no such thing as the "Paris Business Review" - O'Reilly just made it up, as we've come to expect from him.

Such hogwash.

That's what you've "come to expect from him"?

That certainly implies a pattern of behavior. You know ... a pattern...something that could be expected to be repeated in the future with certainty ...

say TONIGHT or TOMORROW night or ... PICK A NIGHT!

Say whaaat? You'd rather just wait until your favorite blogger or website (*We watch...so YOU don't have to!) parses through history and finds the tidbits and passes down the treats? Aww, isn't that cute.

Yes, I am back. The evil conservative who listens to NPR every morning, Tavis Smiley every evening and watches CNN and Olbermann every night. The guy who has a raging hardon for Oreiley even though I only watch him about once a week.

The closed-minded (shut tight tight tight!) monster who offended the open-minded liberals by suggesting that we actually watch a show firsthand and compare it to another show, again watched firsthand (tight! tight! tight!)




So... what are we watching tomorrow night?

 

[seycyrus]

Limbaugh, Lason, and Savage are all examples of hate radio - people who profit by creating hate for a group by pepetuating lies and half-truths. And it is even worse than the KKK ...

I don't think you mean that, do you?

I think this is a fair example of how exaggerations can be generated by people discussing an emotional topic.

 

[edward]

Limbaugh, Lason, and Savage are all examples of hate radio - people who profit by creating hate for a group by pepetuating lies and half-truths. And it is even worse than the KKK ...

I don't think you mean that, do you?

I think this is a fair example of how exaggerations can be generated by people discussing an emotional topic.

Since when did a bumper sticker that says: "I am already against the next war" become an emotional subject for a normal person??

Savage gave the emotional caller a hateful boost when he replied: "I pull up beside of these people and yell at them"

He actually says a lot worse than "yell" at them. Listen to the last 45 seconds of this link:

 

[drankin]

Savage is the man!

 

[seycyrus]

Limbaugh, Lason, and Savage are all examples of hate radio - people who profit by creating hate for a group by pepetuating lies and half-truths. And it is even worse than the KKK ...

Since when did a bumper sticker that says: "I am already against the next war" become an emotional subject for a normal person??

Savage gave the emotional caller a hateful boost when he replied: "I pull up beside of these people and yell at them"

He actually says a lot worse than "yell" at them. Listen to the last 45 seconds of this link:

I am trying to avoid going down the KKK path ...

 

[seycyrus]

Since when did a bumper sticker that says: "I am already against the next war" become an emotional subject for a normal person??

Well that certainly is a stupid bumper sticker.

That's simply announcing to the world that you have already been brainwashed.

 

[lisab]

Savage is the man!

Grown @ss men don't act like that...screaming at other motorists because of a bumper sticker on their car? Come on - what a loser.

 

[drankin]

Grown @ss men don't act like that...screaming at other motorists because of a bumper sticker on their car? Come on - what a loser.

He's passionate!

 

[Evo]

I have edited the posts on this page so that they make sense. If I missed something, please let me know.

 

[chemisttree]

I'm sure you're ready for your shower now...

 

[LightbulbSun]

*Sigh* The wasteland that is talk radio and cable news television.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Gokul already posted this, but it really has to be included in this thread.

Conservative radio talk show host Kevin James:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24672043#24672043

 

[Alienjoey]

Gokul already posted this, but it really has to be included in this thread.

Conservative radio talk show host Kevin James:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24672043#24672043

It seems as though that video is only a few minutes of the discussion, not the full exchange. The full exchange (nine minutes long, with the latter five consisting mainly of Kevin James shouting "It all goes back to appeasement" and "Energized, legitimized", etc.) can be found here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24655385#24655385

 

[lisab]

Gokul already posted this, but it really has to be included in this thread.

Conservative radio talk show host Kevin James:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24672043#24672043

Wow, that guy sure is no William F. Buckley! He just keeps spewing talking point, talking point, talking point!

 

[mheslep]

Gokul already posted this, but it really has to be included in this thread.

Conservative radio talk show host Kevin James:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24672043#24672043

Who says he's conservative, besides himself no doubt? Sounds like he's just partisan.

 

[mheslep]

Olberman on hate TV belongs in here
"Shut the Hell up"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEBpC0GLr6Y&feature=related

 

[Ivan Seeking]

What did he say that is factually incorrect? I only watched about half of it, but so far it sounds right.

btw, I don't watch Olberman or anyone who yells at the camera.

 

[mheslep]

Its all the hyperbole in there ramped up to 120dbl, same thing as Savage.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Its all the hyperbole in there ramped up to 120dbl, same thing as Savage.

What I saw is not even close to savage. You really can't tell the difference?

Does Olberman tell people to open their window and scream at other people driving on the freeway, as Savage say he does [Savage sounds like a real psycho]? Did Olberman call all conservatives fascists or perverts? Does he attack education? Where do we find any attacks like this with Olberman?

What I heard was factually correct.

 

[chemisttree]

What I heard was factually correct.

That's the saddest thing of all...

 

[mheslep]

What I saw is not even close to savage. You really can't tell the difference?

Yes Savage is apparently much less pompous. I also see Savage has a PhD in biochem from Berkeley.

Does Olberman tell people to open their window and scream at other people driving on the freeway, as Savage say he does [Savage sounds like a real psycho]? Did Olberman call all conservatives fascists or perverts? Does he attack education? Where do we find any attacks like this with Olberman?

What I heard was factually correct.

As I said its hyperbole; half of Olberman is not subject to fact checking at all as in "cold blooded murderers" and "Shut the hell up" at the end.

 

[Gokul43201]

This comparison between Olbermann and Savage is completely ridiculous! mheslep, did you watch the clip posted in one of the early posts?

Or try this one. Savage's response to a prank caller who identified himself as gay and poked fun at Savage's teeth:

Oh, so you're one of those sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig; how's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig? You got nothing better to do than to put me down, you piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage, and choke on it. Get trichinosis. Now do we have another nice caller here who's busy because he didn't have a nice night in the bathhouse who's angry at me today? Put another, put another sodomite on...no more calls?...I don't care about these bums; they mean nothing to me. They're all sausages.

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1166879684/The_Call_That_Got_Michael_Savage_Fired

 

[drankin]

Savage is THE MAN. He doesn't hold back. Not worried about offending anyone.

 

[mheslep]

This comparison between Olbermann and Savage is completely ridiculous! mheslep, did you watch the clip posted in one of the early posts?

Or try this one. Savage's response to a prank caller who identified himself as gay and poked fun at Savage's teeth:

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1166879684/The_Call_That_Got_Michael_Savage_Fired

Never said the two were the same. Yes that's some Bronx style street vulgarity from Savage, offensive or at least boring. Olberman's offensive in another way. If you think you're going to convince me Olbernan's rants and his regular "worst person in the world" are not offensive, for other reasons, you are wasting your time.

BTW - check Obama on the subject. He called Wright offensive and over the top for some of Wrights rants that parallel Olberman, again just with a different style.

 

[Gokul43201]

Yes that's some Bronx style street vulgarity from Savage, offensive or at least boring.

Please let's not confuse bigotry with slang.

 

[Gokul43201]

Yes Savage is apparently much less pompous. I also see Savage has a PhD in biochem from Berkeley.

From Berkeley? He chose to go to what is arguably the most liberal campus in the entire country? Does Savage actually have a far left background that he wishes to hide?

A minute of looking around...and I find he does not have a PhD in Biochemistry, but a PhD in ... get this: Nutritional Ethnomedicine!

Can anyone here name a field that Savage himself would more loudly scream at as being "liberal"?

But this gets better...Savage, as Michael Weiner, has written a https://www.amazon.com/dp/0895294125/?tag=pfamazon01-20titled The Complete Book of Homeopathy, the Holistic and Natural Way to Good Health.

Not only is he a loudmouthed bigot who appears to be hiding a liberal past, but he's also a crackpot and a quack.

 

[mheslep]

Please let's not confuse bigotry with slang.

I don't think I have. The street stuff you can commonly hear in parts of NY wouldn't pass off as just slang.

 

[Poop-Loops]

Well that certainly is a stupid bumper sticker.

That's simply announcing to the world that you have already been brainwashed.

Why would you be for a war? The last time a US war was justified was WW2 and that was because we were attacked by an actual country first, and Europe had already been ravaged.

Oh, I guess "Gulf War 1" kind of counts, too.

Seriously, I'm trying to understand your mindset here.

 

[Poop-Loops]

Not only is he a loudmouthed bigot who appears to be hiding a liberal past, but he's also a crackpot and a quack.

You forgot hypocrite.

 

[Poop-Loops]

This is liberal extremism. As Dr Savage points out, that mindset is a mental disorder. English want to be English, Irish want to be Irish, French want to continue being French, Americans want to be Americans, Iranians want to be Iranians... take away their borders and they lose their culture, their identity, their government and their language. Your idea, though ideal in a strange sort of way, is not even close to reality.

What's wrong with losing their culture, identity, government, and language?

Let me tell you my story. I was born in Greece to Polish parents and live in the US. I only lived in Greece for 3 months before coming to the US but lived in Poland for a total of about 4 years. While in the US I moved from the East Coast to the West Coast.

My point? My sense of culture, identity, government, and language has completely eroded. And I LOVE it. I honestly don't care where I live anymore. I have no ties to any country or culture and do what I please instead of what I "should" as part of a country.

The idea that French want to be French and Irish want to be Irish and English want to be English is a completely manufactured and arbitrary labeling of those people. Jesus Christ, do you have any idea how frickin' TINY England and Ireland are? You take away the border and nobody would care. The only reason they don't want to assimilate into one big Great Britain like they should is because they are butt hurt about all the wars in the past.

You know what's a mental disorder? Wanting to die for your leader. Wanting to die for a tiny piece of land that you can't even call your own because the government has the final say on it. "For King and Country."? Please. There are much more worthwhile causes to die for than that.