The Dangers of White Supremacy Ideology in America

[BlackVision]

Last I checked, SATs were not a reliable indicator of raw intelligence

The SAT has been considered reliable in measuring IQ.

"While the SAT is generally a good predictor of a student's performance in the first year of college, a new study from researchers at Case Western Reserve University finds that, more than anything else, the SAT is a measure of overall intelligence. Meredith C. Frey, a doctoral student in psychology, and Douglas K. Detterman, a professor of psychology, examined the relationship between SAT results and general cognitive ability in two studies. They believe the results of their study mean researchers can fairly accurately estimate a person's intelligence without administering a lengthy IQ test."

http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-SAT.htm

 

[BlackVision]

Whenever one comes across an attempt to argue "racial supremacy,"

It is not racial supremacy. Let's settle this once and for it. It's knowledging that evolution in different regions for thousands of years, gave different races SMALL genetical differences that will cause small differences from one characteristic, one ability to the next. It's science in it's purest form.

 

[bobf]

Certainly all cultures began as hunter/gatherers, but not all of them stayed that way as long as others did. Certainly predation in the Savannah is a bigger danger than predation in the Mediterranean -- the African continent is home to some of the fiercest predators on the planet.

How were whites able to come into the area and build if predation was such a problem? What resources did the europeans have that the Africans didn't that allowed them to become more advanced?

I'm not referring to raw materials like stone and wood -- I'm referring more to infrastructure. Resources build on resources... before you can build modern cities, you need to have modern building equipment. Before you can have modern building equipment, you must have modern fuels and engines. Before you can have those, you must have modern mining techniques, and so on. We all know that technology has been increasingly exponentially (I use the term loosely) in all of recorded history. It took thousands of years for mankind to reach the industrial revolution, and only a few hundred more to reach the space age. It seems very likely to me that any civilization that began with even a very small advantage in resources several thousand years ago would rapidly snowball into having an enormous advantage today.

Why havn't the tribes in Africa advanced exponentially like most of the world? Why are the majority of Africans still in tribal garb? What resources exactly are needed in your opinion for infrastructure? I am sure we can find out what resources are both plentiful and scarce in Africa.

I have no specifics to offer you at the moment, but will invest some time in some research if I am sorely in error. I have just gotten the impression from documentaries, etc. that African cultures involve many more rites and rituals and ceremonies. I even get the feeling they spend more time on grooming and maintaining body appearance. If you have any evidence to present that shows African cultures to have equal or less "overhead" to European cultures, I'd be happy to read it.

- Warren

This would be a huge over-generalization for different tribes are very different. From television, I get the impression that all crime is commited by blacks.

 

[Evo]

Originally Posted by Evo
Do you know that "coloreds" couldn't drink out of a "white" persons water fountain?

That applied to Asians as well.

No, you are wrong, it only applied to blacks.

That they couldn't use "white" bathrooms in public?

That applied to Asians as well.

No, you are wrong.

The list goes on and on.

That applied to Asians as well.

No, only to blacks.

It is ridiculous to bring asians up to compare against blacks.

Huh? Even with the fact that I just pointed out?

As usual, you have no knowledge of history. You are so wrong, check it out.

 

[BlackVision]

Not in anything you have provided.


So, you admit you were wrong.


Sorry, wrong BV, as always. Look at this. Buh bye.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=38546posts 21 & 25

LOL. Are you trying to state that a person with higher intelligence does not have a higher probability to be in higher SES? I think, I THINK a person with more intelligence will have more ample opportunities to have a job that would put him in higher SES. Does this article take this into consideration? From what I have read, the answer is no. So it's using a faulty approach to reach faulty conclusions. So I am right as always and you are again wrong.

If you want more proper methods in comparing SES, read "The Bell Curve" where they do weigh SES and show that it only closes the gap by a few points.

 

[bobf]

As usual, you have no knowledge of history. You are so wrong, check it out.

Why don't you provide some evidence for us to check out? I would be very interested in learning more on the topic, so please share your evidence.

 

[BlackVision]

Not an attack at all, just hope that BV can learn.

How ironic, when it is others that feel that it is you that should learn.

 

[Evo]

LOL. Are you trying to state that a person with higher intelligence does not have a higher probability to be in higher SES? I think, I THINK a person with more intelligence will have more ample opportunities to have a job that would put him in higher SES. Does this article take this into consideration? From what I have read, the answer is no. So it's using a faulty approach to reach faulty conclusions. So I am right as always and you are again wrong.

If you want more proper methods in comparing SES, read "The Bell Curve" where they do weigh SES and show that it only closes the gap by a few points.

The "Bell Curve" was written by known racists, and a long time ago, and has been debunked as such.

Like I said, find something current and legitimate (not funded by a racist organization) that has been conducted after the study I posted that shows that it is not academically accepted, or give up.

 

[BlackVision]

That study has been accepted. Find something that can legitimately refute it and we can discuss it.

"The Bell Curve" fully addresses this as they have anticipated people who will try this approach. That you cannot just weigh SES WITHOUT taking in the consideration that people will be in high SES BECAUSE of their high intelligence that people will be in low SES BECAUSE of their low intelligence. So it's already refuted before it can even get out of the gate.

 

[BlackVision]

Show me what would be an attack.

You have used personal attacks toward me in that past. That is undeniable. I only ever retorted with personal attacks when confronted by it from you.

 

[Evo]

"The Bell Curve" fully addresses this as they have anticipated people who will try this approach. That you cannot just weigh SES WITHOUT taking in the consideration that people will be in high SES BECAUSE of their high intelligence that people will be in low SES BECAUSE of their low intelligence. So it's already refuted before it can even get out of the gate.

The Bell Curve is ancient and debunked.

The "Bell Curve" was written by known racists, and a long time ago, and has been debunked as such.

Like I said, find something current and legitimate (not funded by a racist organization) that has been conducted after the study I posted that shows that it is not academically accepted, or give up.

Do you accept the challenge, or do you give up?

 

[chroot]

How were whites able to come into the area and build if predation was such a problem? What resources did the europeans have that the Africans didn't that allowed them to become more advanced?

Well, they obviously developed better building techniques, for one.

Why havn't the tribes in Africa advanced exponentially like most of the world? Why are the majority of Africans still in tribal garb?

They have probably advanced a great deal over hominids 50,000 years ago. The European cultures just advanced a whole lot more.

What resources exactly are needed in your opinion for infrastructure?

Industry begets more industry. I can't point to a single item that gauranteed European success, but building techniques, mining techniques, agricultural techniques, energy sources, and so on are all required for modern civilization.

This would be a huge over-generalization for different tribes are very different.

As I said, I have no specifics to argue. Perhaps someone else does.

- Warren

 

[BlackVision]

No, you are wrong, it only applied to blacks.

No, you are wrong.



No, only to blacks.

As usual, you have no knowledge of history. You are so wrong, check it out.

Oh yes, they let Asians drink out of the fountain that said "Whites Only" Why didn't this come across my mind? Oh my oh my. As usual you have absolutely no level of logic or common sense.

 

[bobf]

The "Bell Curve" was written by known racists, and a long time ago, and has been debunked as such.

Like I said, find something current and legitimate (not funded by a racist organization) that has been conducted after the study I posted that shows that it is not academically accepted, or give up.

Can you provide evidence that the authors were "known racists". Wasn't one of them Jewish? Were they authors racist against Asians, blacks, etc? Oh, I get it, you can label them racist and suggest everything they did was wrong because they were "racist".

 

[Evo]

Can you provide evidence that the authors were "known racists". Wasn't one of them Jewish? Were they authors racist against Asians, blacks, etc? Oh, I get it, you can label them racist and suggest everything they did was wrong because they were "racist".

Yes, and this has all been previoulsy posted in other threads. Murray was guilty of cross burnings, there is so much more I can repost
.

 

[United States]

Can you provide evidence that the authors were "known racists". Wasn't one of them Jewish? Were they authors racist against Asians, blacks, etc?

The co-author of "The Bell Curve" Richard Herrnstein was ethnically Jewish. Another race realist is Arthur Hu, an American-Asian who studies ethnic differences and he concluded that East Asians were more intelligent than Whites, on average.

 

[BlackVision]

The "Bell Curve" was written by known racists

Wrong but it seems to be the only attack you can use against it.

and has been debunked as such.

Wrong again. It has constantly been confirmed with newer publications such as "Race, Evolution, and Behavior"

Like I said, find something current and legitimate (not funded by a racist organization) that has been conducted after the study I posted that shows that it is not academically accepted, or give up.

Why would one have to find a newer source, when your source touches the "do not do this because it would be faulty" approach already stated by previous publications? Unless you can show that it did not do this, it is you that needs to give up.

 

[bobf]

Well, they obviously developed better building techniques, for one.

Why?

They have probably advanced a great deal over hominids 50,000 years ago. The European cultures just advanced a whole lot more.

Why?

Industry begets more industry. I can't point to a single item that gauranteed European success, but building techniques, mining techniques, agricultural techniques, energy sources, and so on are all required for modern civilization.

Why were they able to learn these superior techniques?

As I said, I have no specifics to argue. Perhaps someone else does.

- Warren

I don't pretend to have the answers either, but I don't know how one can say intelligence does not play a role.

 

[Evo]

Oh yes, they let Asians drink out of the fountain that said "Whites Only" Why didn't this come across my mind? Oh my oh my. As usual you have absolutely no level of logic or common sense.

Yes, Asians could drink from these fountains, they were not considered black. You forget BV, I was there, I was witness to this.

You don't know your history.

 

[bobf]

Yes, and this has all been previoulsy posted in other threads. Murray was guilty of cross burnings, there is so much more I can repost
.

Do you expect me to search for a needle in a haystack? Why not provide the information here? Was he also racist against Asians? What proof do you have that he was guilty of cross burning? Was he convicted in a trial of this charge?

 

[BlackVision]

The co-author of "The Bell Curve" Richard Herrnstein was ethnically Jewish. Another race realist is Arthur Hu, an American-Asian who studies ethnic differences and he concluded that East Asians were more intelligent than Whites, on average.

No matter who conducts the study. Whether it is by a White, Jewish, Asian. It ALWAYS follows this order in IQ level. Jews, Asians, Whites, Blacks. ALWAYS. It doesn't matter if a Jewish person does the study, or a White person, or an Asian person, the studies have always been consistent in that order.

 

[BlackVision]

Yes, Asians could drink from these fountains, they were not considered black.

Ah so the term "Whites Only" applied to Asians. Hmmmmm.

 

[Evo]

BV, will you accept my challenge, or do you give up?

Very easy, yes or no.

 

[chroot]

I don't pretend to have the answers either, but I don't know how one can say intelligence does not play a role.

I don't know why you continue to ask me questions upon questions, even when I've already explained that I have no formal education on this topic. I don't know if you think this is somehow "debunking" me, but I don't feel it is.

My basic assertion (resource availability, both physical and intellectual, enables civilization advancement) seems plausible enough; do you have any evidence that it cannot be at least partially true?

- Warren

 

[Evo]

Ah so the term "Whites Only" applied to Asians. Hmmmmm.

No, it never said "whites only", you made an error in assuming something that wasn't said. Again, don't try to discuss something that you know nothing about.

 

[bobf]

I don't know why you continue to ask me questions upon questions, even when I've already explained that I have no formal education on this topic. I don't know if you think this is somehow "debunking" me, but I don't feel it is.

I have many questions on the topic and find it very interesting. I am just looking for answers myself. My goal is not to debunk your argument, but rather to learn.

My basic assertion (resource availability, both physical and intellectual, enables civilization advancement) seems plausible enough; do you have any evidence that it cannot be at least partially true?

- Warren

What resources? What intellectual resources? I can get evidence once we define what these resources are and how they contribute to the advancement of the europeans.

 

[bobf]

No, it never said "whites only", you made an error in assuming something that wasn't said. Again, don't try to discuss something that you know nothing about.

Evo,

I am not saying you are wrong, but I would love to see some evidence. It seems to me that white fountains would be for white people. I will admit right now that I do not know much about history (I am actually taking a course next semester), but I would love to see your evidence.

 

[United States]

Here is Arthur Hu's website: http://www.arthurhu.com/ This Asian-American not only claims that East Asians are smarter than Whites, but that Whites are smarter than Africans. He has a variety of data on his site which he uses to back up his claims. Don't know how valid any of it is, but the info. is there for those that want to go over it.

 

[BlackVision]

No, it never said "whites only", you made an error in assuming something that wasn't said. Again, don't try to discuss something that you know nothing about.

LMAO! One must seriously shake his head in disbelief when debating with you.


Should Old 'Whites Only' Signs Be Displayed?[/color]

Posted March 14, 2003 -- Dallas County, Texas, commissioners decided this week to uncover "Whites only" signs above water fountains in the county records building and display them in the name of history, rather than remove them, according to the Fort Worth Star Telegram.

http://www.bet.com/articles/0%2C1048%2Cc1gb5760-6506-1%2C00.html


'Whites Only' signs win reprieve[/color]

Fading "Whites Only" signs on water fountains at the county records building will be uncovered and marked with plaques explaining their historical significance, Dallas County commissioners decided Tuesday.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/local/states/texas/5373029.htm

 

[jammieg]

"How were whites able to come into the area and build if predation was such a problem? What resources did the europeans have that the Africans didn't that allowed them to become more advanced?"-bobf
My guess is it was mostly chance, I mean one area of the world had to in all probability start flowering before others although the affects would spread outward, who is to say it was certainly due to anyone thing, it may have mostly been chance.