The discussion centers on the differences in binding energy per nucleon between carbon-12 and nitrogen-14, exploring the implications of nucleon count and nuclear forces. It involves theoretical considerations of nuclear binding energies and the factors influencing them.
Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views regarding the factors influencing binding energy per nucleon and the implications of nucleon count.
The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the complexities of nuclear binding energies, including the dependence on various factors beyond nucleon count and the unresolved nature of certain explanations.
but then the question would become if carbon has less nucleon than nitrogen why is the binding energy larger for carbon. neither of the nuclei is large enough that the nuclear forces from one nucleon wouldn't affect the other nucleons.Nugatory said:We calculate the binding energy per nucleon from the known total binding energy, not the other way around. The binding energies of
the two nuclei are observational facts; then we divide one by 12 and the other by 14 to get the binding energy per nucleon.
There's a lot more to nuclear binding energies than just the number of nucleons and the size of the nucleus. If you consider only those factors you can explain some broad-brush phenomena such as the way that the binding energy curve bottoms out at iron and climbs in both directions from there; but look more closely at nearby nuclei anywhere along the curve and it will be clear that there is more going on than that.Avalon_18 said:but then the question would become if carbon has less nucleon than nitrogen why is the binding energy larger for carbon. neither of the nuclei is large enough that the nuclear forces from one nucleon wouldn't affect the other nucleons.