The Distribution of Delta Functions

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The discussion revolves around the properties and identities involving delta functions and their derivatives, particularly in the context of distributions. Participants explore the implications of evaluating delta functions at specific points and the validity of certain identities involving delta functions and their derivatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of evaluating delta functions at specific points, particularly when x equals a or 0, suggesting that "plugging in" values may not be appropriate in this context.
  • Another participant asserts that the identity involving the delta function and its derivatives is correct under the condition that the Taylor series converges for the test functions used.
  • Concerns are raised about the definition of products of delta functions and their derivatives, particularly regarding the undefined nature of certain expressions when delta functions are evaluated at specific points.
  • A participant proposes a question about defining the integral of the product of delta functions and their derivatives, indicating that it leads to divergent results under certain conditions.
  • There is mention of Cauchy's principal value in relation to the integral of delta functions, suggesting that the integral should yield zero for odd derivatives.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of evaluating delta functions at specific points and the implications of certain identities. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and behaviors of these distributions in various contexts.

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Participants highlight limitations related to the convergence of Taylor series for test functions and the undefined nature of certain expressions involving delta functions. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and conditions that affect the interpretations of the mathematical statements made.

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let be the distribution

[tex]D^{m} \delta (x-a) D^{k} \delta (x)[/tex]

my questions are , what happens whenever x=a or x=a ??

is this identity correct

[tex]\delta (x-a) = e^{-a D} \delta (x)= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-a)^{n} \frac{D^{n}}{n!}\delta (x)[/tex]
 
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I don't understand the first question, but this

mhill said:
is this identity correct

[tex]\delta (x-a) = e^{-a D} \delta (x)= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-a)^{n} \frac{D^{n}}{n!}\delta (x)[/tex]

is correct if you using such test functions that the Taylor series work for them. It can be checked with integration by parts. If the Taylor series don't converge for the test functions, then this distribution thing stops working as well.
 
mhill said:
what happens whenever x=a or x=a ??
This doesn't make sense to me. What meaning did you intend?
 
Probably meant to say x=a or x=0, since the expression contains the terms δ(x-a) and δ(x-0).
 
I meant that the idea of "plugging in" a value for x doesn't appear to make sense in this context.
 
the idea is

[tex]D^{m} \delta (x-a) D^{k} \delta (x)[/tex] however the value

[tex]D^{m} \delta (-a) D^{k} \delta (0)[/tex] and [tex]D^{m} \delta (0) D^{k} \delta (a)[/tex]

is not defined since delta functions are just oo

another question , how would we define [tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx D^{m} \delta (x-a) D^{k} \delta (x)[/tex]

also , under suitable test function f , then

[tex]< f | \delta (x-a) > = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-a)^{n} \frac{ < \delta | D^{n} f>}{n!}[/tex]

although it would make no sense , i think we could say

[tex](2\pi ) i^{m}D^{m}\delta (0) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx x^{m}[/tex] which is divergent... although in Cauchy's principal value the integral should be 0 for m Odd
 
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