The Easiest Martial Art to Learn for Self-Defense

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The discussion centers around the best martial arts for self-defense, emphasizing that while martial arts can provide valuable skills, they require significant time and dedication to master. Self-defense classes with qualified instructors are recommended for those seeking quick, practical skills without long-term commitment. Jujitsu is highlighted as particularly effective due to its focus on ground fighting, while styles like Karate and Taekwondo are critiqued for lacking grappling techniques. Participants suggest that a mixed approach, incorporating elements from various disciplines, may be beneficial. The conversation also touches on the importance of understanding personal goals for training, whether for fitness, competition, or self-defense, and the necessity of realistic training with resisting opponents. Ultimately, while martial arts can enhance physical fitness and self-discipline, they may not guarantee safety in confrontations, especially against multiple attackers.
  • #91
tribdog said:
I was standing in my yard one day, just flying my kite and minding my own business when some crazy lady drove by. her car antenna snagged my kite string, which got tangled around my wrist. She stopped at stop sign, and I just had time to jump in my truck. I raced after her, trying to keep the string from cutting off the circulation in my wrist. I only got free when she stopped at a gas station and the radio antenna lowered into the car. As I drove away she gave me a dirty look and went to stand over by a couple of mean looking bikers.


How have you survived this long?
 
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  • #92
KingNothing said:
Best self-defense against a guy is to kick him in the balls. Most people go down unless they've been conditioned to take it.
Seriously, where did you get that Idea from? What kind of whimp ass pussies do you hang around that go down because they 'havn't been conditioned to take it', every 11 year who's been to a public school or has a sibling has been conditioned to take it!

And if they do 'go down' with one kick they're not a threat anyway and you don't need to get that ruthless.
 
  • #93
Grace said:
I am a 100 lb female that is often alone and just got my gun permit. I plan on taking Karate lessons in February. :smile:
Arn't you proud.

On another note, outside of the house, I think that all women (at least) should carry pepperspray. I carry it, but it's only secondary. I know if anyone ever f*ed with me, I'd go rabid. When the police got there they'd be like, "okay, we understand why you broke his nose and clawed his eyes out, but what's with the pepperspray up his dickhole?"
They let people like you carry guns?
 
  • #94
good thing you know martial arts Smurf, with this grumpy attitude you have lately you must be getting into lots of fights.
 
  • #95
Smurf said:
Seriously, where did you get that Idea from? What kind of whimp ass pussies do you hang around that go down because they 'havn't been conditioned to take it', every 11 year who's been to a public school or has a sibling has been conditioned to take it!

And if they do 'go down' with one kick they're not a threat anyway and you don't need to get that ruthless.


Stop plagiarizing me please, lest i have to call SCO's lawyers on you.

*waits for irony to sink in*
 
  • #96
You all should try Filipino Martial Arts which utilize combinations of grappling, punching, kicking, knife fighting (offensive and defensive) and use of short sticks both single and double stick methods. FMA was designed to be taught quickly so as to be effective from the first lesson. Ask Ferdinand Magellan who got his ass whopped by a bunch of natives with sticks and spears.
 
  • #97
Learn this one, you won't see it in extreme fighting as its a free style form of Tai Jitsu, and is intended for only one purpose to beat your oponent as quickly as possible by any means necessary and that includes breaking arms, extending your fingers and jabbing someones throat so that they smash your windpipe, in fact there are less blocks as many moves blocks are simply designed to attack an attack and hopefully either cause maximum pain or break a limb, if you saw it performed it would probably resemble a fight in The Bourne Identity and as Tai Jitsu is taught by intelligence agencies that's pretty much what they're using, ie no style fighting.

Ninjitsu the FSM also approves :smile:

http://www.terra.es/personal/fjmoreno/taijitsu/iquesntj.htm

Within the Nihon Tai-Jitsu the practitioner chooses the answer that adapts more to its preferences, their capacity and its physical aptitudes. The training of different supposed from aggression, will give taijitsuka the capacity to make an answer, fast and effective, that could be simple or complex based on the situation in which the aggression takes place. The great technical fan that the Nihon Tai-Jitsu puts into the hands of its practitioners, will give the opportunity them to win in an unfortunate encounter. The advantage of the maximun energy, the knowledge of the techniques of strike and their use like opening and completion techniques , the use of locks, throws, take downs and chokes and the use of the displacements at the beginning of the defensive action, are principles that taijitsuka will apply with logic to construct of immediate form the defensive action.

The practitioner is free to choose the techniques that adapt more to their physical constitution or to his personal preferences and also he is free to incorporate to his technical repertoire, everything what he considers valid, whenever can be used within the fundamental principles of the system. He does not mean this that the Nihon Tai-Jitsu is an eclectic system, but simply, that does not limit its practitioners on the techniques that must use.

THE COMPETITION IN NIHON TAI-JITSU

Within theNihon Tai-Jitsu, the competition is not conceived like in other Martial Arts that nowadays have derived towards the sport. The fight competition in which a taijitsuka openly faces another one the objective to win him, is completely discarded within theNihon Tai-Jitsu, since it does not enter within his principles to use the knowledge that our Martial Art contributes to us, to use them like an aggressor. By the way, we thought so that it would be impossible to make this type of competition without limiting the techniques to apply, and as it has happened with other Martial Arts, since the use of all the technical resources of the Nihon Tai-Jitsu would imply without a doubt the injury of one of the competitors. For this reason the competition within the Nihon Tai-Jitsu is limited a technical competition where the competitors, who appear by pairs, make a technical and coordinated work on kata, randori prepared and technical applied.

In order to finish, the Nihon Tai-Jitsu is a martial art whose effectiveness is widely proven. It is used in the formation of the agents of diverse police bodies, and is ideal for all those people who wish be formed in the self-defense, although also it is possible to be trained simply to do a little of exercise, like relaxation activity, to make something "different" from the daily tasks or why not, to amuse themselves and to stimulate the technical creativity, looking for for example, a new scape to an attack or take hold.



I like the move where he pretty much dislocates or breaks his arm if he goes through with the attack and then throws him by the same arm, ouch :eek:
 
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  • #98
tumor said:
which is the easiest of them to have some ability to defend myself?
a gun.

p.s.: never mind 10 characters padding
 
  • #99
whatta said:
a gun.

p.s.: never mind 10 characters padding


Uzi 9mm or Ak 47, maybe a few grenades, a rocket launcher and drive a tank; better still get some cs gas and flash grenades, then introduce some toxin into the air butulinus maybe? After donning gas masks, or a mini nuke? Then you don't need martial arts :smile: gun :rolleyes: I work in a hospital and I've never even seen a GSW, thank God for ridiculously restrictive gun law is all I can say :-p :smile: now knife wounds maybe. Or fist wounds most commonly.
 
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  • #100
Schrodinger's Dog said:
Uzi 9mm or Ak 47, maybe a few grenades, a rocket launcher and drive a tank; better still get some cs gas and flash grenades, then introduce some toxin into the air butulinus maybe? After donning gas masks, or a mini nuke?

You know that from personal experience or..? :-p

Kidding. :wink: Anyway, I like the thing Moonbear said in a previous post here, that lesson 1 in self-defence is prevention through awareness. Although, there are situations where one cannot prevent getting into trouble so easy. Running is also a useful form of self defence. If you're alone, of course, and if you're able to (i.e. not surrounded).
 
  • #101
Schrodinger's Dog said:
you don't need martial arts :smile: gun
wrong, you DO need to know how to use it, or else they will simply take it out of your hands.
 
  • #102
whatta said:
wrong, you DO need to know how to use it, or else they will simply take it out of your hands.
I was being ironic just a joke :smile:, Taking a gun out with you is fine in the US, but the point was just don't have a gun culture in the first place, sort of a joking mocking of the US, then you don't have the ludicrously high death rates in major cities :-p.

But of course this is a breach of the bannana right and the lemon curd ammendment and besides your culture is ingrained so there's nothing you can do about it, accept carry a gun and most importantly as you say, learn how to use it, in fact if you don't don't know how to use it safely and properly, don't carry a gun. Carry a can of mace instead.
 
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  • #103
There have been some pretty interesting fighting styles mentioned here that I've never heard of before. I appreciate good martial arts, but to tell you the honest I don't think that I'd want to choose anything like karate or muay thai if I was wanting to do a martial art. I'd want to do something that deals extensively with grappling and close quarter fighting. I just think that this would be the most realistic and most useful thing to learn.

Something that I've noticed a lot (especially on the internet) is that many people think that if they become a professional in a martial art they will be able to defend/take on anything. Some people even think that they can beat someone who has 40-50 kg on them. I mean if you take Jet Li in Fearless as an example. There is no way in hell that he'd win in a fight against that incredibly huge guy (they fight in a boxing ring). It'd be like hitting a wall pretty much and he wouldn't necessarily be as incredibly slow as he was in the movie. But after seeing that movie and many others like it, people believe that it is possible. Just amazes me really...
 
  • #104
big man said:
Some people even think that they can beat someone who has 40-50 kg on them. I mean if you take Jet Li in Fearless as an example. There is no way in hell that he'd win in a fight against that incredibly huge guy (they fight in a boxing ring). It'd be like hitting a wall pretty much and he wouldn't necessarily be as incredibly slow as he was in the movie.
don't forget non ortodox methods; articular levers at the fingers, strikes on eyes, fractures of the ankles, atemi at the jugular if you can reach his neck
 
  • #105
90% of Martial Arts has to do with the master. Most people think Kung Fu is impracticle, and then some say Jujitsu isn't, then there are people who think Tae Kwon Do isn't. The problem is, the person who is teaching the student.

Now I have done a few martial arts, I have been a practictioner of both Thai Boxing and Tae Kwon Do for 7 years now and I have found some very awesome teachers. They showed me practicability, the physics behind it. Where to hit with maximum damage for maximum results, and used it on many occasions in Tournaments ( Sunshine Games, U.S Open, Cape Coral Martial Arts Institute ). All I am saying is that in Martial Arts there is a lot of garbage, but there is a lot of very nice techniques that do some wicked things. And if you guys don't believe in Dim Bok, knife hand strike someone ( Fingers first ) in the jugular.

Fight Science and Human Wrecking Ball have proved a lot of the theories and myths about Martial Arts. These people DO break bricks and concrete that is not weakened, not prestressed, without any fancy techniques, but pure brutal strength.

Because they were taught, and learned not from 'The Best' but from people who knew what they were talking about.
 
  • #106
7foldsofpaper said:
90% of Martial Arts has to do with the master. Most people think Kung Fu is impracticle, and then some say Jujitsu isn't, then there are people who think Tae Kwon Do isn't. The problem is, the person who is teaching the student.

Now I have done a few martial arts, I have been a practictioner of both Thai Boxing and Tae Kwon Do for 7 years now and I have found some very awesome teachers. They showed me practicability, the physics behind it. Where to hit with maximum damage for maximum results, and used it on many occasions in Tournaments ( Sunshine Games, U.S Open, Cape Coral Martial Arts Institute ). All I am saying is that in Martial Arts there is a lot of garbage, but there is a lot of very nice techniques that do some wicked things. And if you guys don't believe in Dim Bok, knife hand strike someone ( Fingers first ) in the jugular.

Fight Science and Human Wrecking Ball have proved a lot of the theories and myths about Martial Arts. These people DO break bricks and concrete that is not weakened, not prestressed, without any fancy techniques, but pure brutal strength.

Because they were taught, and learned not from 'The Best' but from people who knew what they were talking about.

Why don't people ever look at the last date someone posted in a thread?

We should have a warning that tells the poster that the posts they are about to reply to is older than a set date(from last post). That way we can sort out who does it on purpose and who does it accidentally after searching for something.

++MMA is the way to go.
 
  • #107
Woo hoo! really old thread.

This is a hazard of the Similar threads links on the bottom. I did this once before and ended up bumping something from several years ago. I check the dates now.
 
  • #108
big man said:
There have been some pretty interesting fighting styles mentioned here that I've never heard of before. I appreciate good martial arts, but to tell you the honest I don't think that I'd want to choose anything like karate or muay thai if I was wanting to do a martial art. I'd want to do something that deals extensively with grappling and close quarter fighting. I just think that this would be the most realistic and most useful thing to learn.

Something that I've noticed a lot (especially on the internet) is that many people think that if they become a professional in a martial art they will be able to defend/take on anything. Some people even think that they can beat someone who has 40-50 kg on them. I mean if you take Jet Li in Fearless as an example. There is no way in hell that he'd win in a fight against that incredibly huge guy (they fight in a boxing ring). It'd be like hitting a wall pretty much and he wouldn't necessarily be as incredibly slow as he was in the movie. But after seeing that movie and many others like it, people believe that it is possible. Just amazes me really...


It is very possible to take on a person who is much larger-stronger on you. It is just how well you were taught to defend against an opponent. It only takes 1000 pounds per square inch to knock out an opponent in a head strike, smash the kidneys, destroy someones throat, and so on.

Knees are very easy to break if you know how to, a jumping front snap kick to anyone's noes with break it, a well chambered side to side hammer fist strike can break someone's sternum, and a well placed knife hand ( fingers first ) will break anyone's wind pipe.

The human body is filled with so many, if not hundreds of weak points, and some of them, no matter how hard you train will never be able to take a good strike.

A smaller frame ( if taught right ) will learn how to use momentum, such a plyometrics and rotation to generate velocity to strike at maximum power for maximum damage.

What I say, it depends on the master. We as martial artists put a lot of emphasis on the STUDENT, but if a student has a horrible MASTER, then they will never learn what is practical and what is impractical. What will work and what will not work in a situation. This is why we get into 'What martial art is best?' it is not the martial art, it is the person who is teaching this said martial art.
 
  • #109
whatta said:
a gun.

p.s.: never mind 10 characters padding


a well placed punch. It takes 0.8 seconds for a person to recognize a stimulus, it takes the average fighter 0.18 recognize a stimulus. Stimulus in this sense would be a gun, now by the time you recognize you can pull the trigger, we have already reacted. ;D
 
  • #110
7foldsofpaper said:
a well placed punch. It takes 0.8 seconds for a person to recognize a stimulus, it takes the average fighter 0.18 recognize a stimulus. Stimulus in this sense would be a gun, now by the time you recognize you can pull the trigger, we have already reacted. ;D

And you would be dead, and buried 6 feet under.
 
  • #111
7foldsofpaper said:
It is very possible to take on a person who is much larger-stronger on you. It is just how well you were taught to defend against an opponent. It only takes 1000 pounds per square inch to knock out an opponent in a head strike, smash the kidneys, destroy someones throat, and so on.
Please stop posting.
 
  • #112
I've been involved with martial arts since I was a teenager, some 20+yrs. What I have found is that it doesn't matter the particular system one is proficient in, it matters how proficient one is at it. Whether it's wet-noodle-qwondo or jujitsu, after enough years (10+) of practice you are going to be formidable. A character trait of being in a martial art that long is knowing how not to get in a situation to where you get your butt kicked.
 
  • #113
DanP said:
And you would be dead, and buried 6 feet under.

Interesting tidbit around this I remember while talking to a much older gentlemen many years ago. When he was a teenager, back in the day, him and his brother had pistols. They were in the country, cowboy types. One would hold an unloaded pistol pointed at the other and they would play "smack the gun before you pulled the trigger". He said that no matter who had the gun the other was able to smack the gun aim away from the other before the trigger was pulled. Crazy, I know, but intersting to note.
 
  • #114
I think the most efficient and applicable martial art is boxing. In just about any situation, you'll always be able to punch. Kicking and wrestling are effective, but you may not always have room to throw kicks or the other person might be gigantic and too heavy to wrestle to the ground.

There's other applicable martial arts, but some are just old martial arts based on theory. The problem with traditional martial arts is most of them aren't battle tested. It's based on theory instead of what actually works. A martial art like boxing, however, has had the testing in real fights so that it has evolved into what works and discarded what doesn't. Traditional martial arts usually keep everything, since nothing is proven ineffective through testing. Instead of being based around what works, it's based around what some Japanese guy a thousand years ago THOUGHT worked.
 
  • #115
leroyjenkens said:
There's other applicable martial arts, but some are just old martial arts based on theory. The problem with traditional martial arts is most of them aren't battle tested.

I would disagree here. If you do some research you'll learn that nearly all forms of martial arts were battle tested in their time. As absurd as some forms may seem, they all had purpose.
 
  • #116
Pattonias said:
I would disagree here. If you do some research you'll learn that nearly all forms of martial arts were battle tested in their time. As absurd as some forms may seem, they all had purpose.

Battle tested and improved upon? Or battle tested, but nothing was changed?
Any martial art that requires you to grab someone's hand as they punch at you, obviously hasn't been battle tested, since that simply doesn't work.
I actually wonder if a lot of traditional martial arts were even intended for combat. I think a lot of them were just a form of dance or artistic expression and not even meant to fight with.
 
  • #117
leroyjenkens said:
Battle tested and improved upon? Or battle tested, but nothing was changed?
Any martial art that requires you to grab someone's hand as they punch at you, obviously hasn't been battle tested, since that simply doesn't work.
I actually wonder if a lot of traditional martial arts were even intended for combat. I think a lot of them were just a form of dance or artistic expression and not even meant to fight with.

I can tell you from 1st hand experience that it is not all song and dance when it comes time to fight. It's not like in the movies. Martial artists pay close attention to form and making it look like a 'dance' when practicing; this is a form of self discipline. But, when it comes time to throw down, a lot of that goes out the window and just the overall themes come into play.
 
  • #118
leroy why would you ome on here and say what you said? It looks like the most martial arts knowledge you have comes from jackie chan or steven seagull movies. Yes they do use martial arts, no in a real life fight the probably wouldn't have to even use half the 'technical good looking' type of movements.

You ever watch UFC? They are all trained in some form of martial arts... I'm quite sure they can kick most boxers asses no problem.
 
  • #119
leroyjenkens said:
I actually wonder if a lot of traditional martial arts were even intended for combat. I think a lot of them were just a form of dance or artistic expression and not even meant to fight with.

Ever watch karate or tae-kwon-do in the olympics? it's actually boring as hell because both fighters are so good they cancel out any cool kicks or moves and have to revert to 100% strategy and speed.
 
  • #120
Greg Bernhardt said:
Ever watch karate or tae-kwon-do in the olympics? it's actually boring as hell because both fighters are so good they cancel out any cool kicks or moves and have to revert to 100% strategy and speed.

If you want to see the really cool stuff watch the featherweight fights.
 

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