The Elusive Field Structure of $\mathbb{R}^n$ Beyond $n=2$

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The discussion centers around the possibility of defining a multiplication operation on the vector space $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ for dimensions greater than 2, and whether such a structure could satisfy the axioms of a field. Participants explore the implications of various multiplication definitions and the historical context of field structures in higher dimensions.

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  • Some participants propose defining a multiplication operation on $$\mathbb{R}^n$$, suggesting a component-wise multiplication approach.
  • Others argue that for a multiplication operation to yield a field structure, it must satisfy specific field axioms, including the existence of a zero element, an identity element, and multiplicative inverses for nonzero elements.
  • A participant points out that the proposed multiplication does not satisfy these axioms, particularly noting that certain nonzero elements lack inverses.
  • It is mentioned that when $$n>2$$, there is no way to construct a field structure on $$\mathbb{R}^n$$, with a reference to quaternion multiplication in $$\mathbb{R}^4$$ as a related but non-commutative structure.
  • One participant expresses interest in the formal proof of the assertion that $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ cannot be made into a field for $$n>2$$, asking for guidance on the nature of such a proof.
  • Another participant notes that the result regarding the impossibility of a field structure for $$n>2$$ is historically attributed to Frobenius, linking it to the properties of the complex numbers as an algebraically closed field.

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Participants generally agree that $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ cannot be made into a field for dimensions greater than 2, but the discussion includes differing views on the implications and the nature of the proof required to establish this result.

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The discussion touches on historical perspectives and mathematical properties related to field structures, but lacks detailed proofs or formal definitions that would clarify the claims made.

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$$\mathbb{R}^n$$ is a vector space but not a field because it lacks a suitable multiplication operation between pairs of its elements ...

Why don't mathematicians define a multiplication operation between a pair of elements and investigate the resulting field ...

For example ... why not define multiplication as X where $$(x_1, x_2, \ ... \ ... \ , x_n) \ X \ (y_1, y_2, \ ... \ ... \ , y_n) = (x_1 y_1, x_2 y_2 , \ ... \ ... \ , x_n y_n)$$ ...Peter
 
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Peter said:
$$\mathbb{R}^n$$ is a vector space but not a field because it lacks a suitable multiplication operation between pairs of its elements ...

Why don't mathematicians define a multiplication operation between a pair of elements and investigate the resulting field ...

For example ... why not define multiplication as X where $$(x_1, x_2, \ ... \ ... \ , x_n) \ X \ (y_1, y_2, \ ... \ ... \ , y_n) = (x_1 y_1, x_2 y_2 , \ ... \ ... \ , x_n y_n)$$ ...Peter
You can define a multiplication operation, but if it is to give rise to a field then it has to obey the field axioms.

For example, you need to check that there is a zero element and an identity element, and each nonzero element of the space needs to have a multiplicative inverse. In the case of the operation that you suggest, the zero element is $(0,0,\ldots,0)$ and the identity element is $(1,1,\ldots,1)$. The element $(1,0,\ldots,0)$ is nonzero but does not have an inverse. So your proposed multiplication does not make $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ into a field.

In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ into a field. (The nearest you can get is the quaternion multiplication in $$\mathbb{R}^4$$, which has many nice properties but is not commutative. So it does not make $$\mathbb{R}^4$$ into a field.)
 
Opalg said:
You can define a multiplication operation, but if it is to give rise to a field then it has to obey the field axioms.

For example, you need to check that there is a zero element and an identity element, and each nonzero element of the space needs to have a multiplicative inverse. In the case of the operation that you suggest, the zero element is $(0,0,\ldots,0)$ and the identity element is $(1,1,\ldots,1)$. The element $(1,0,\ldots,0)$ is nonzero but does not have an inverse. So your proposed multiplication does not make $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ into a field.

In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ into a field. (The nearest you can get is the quaternion multiplication in $$\mathbb{R}^4$$, which has many nice properties but is not commutative. So it does not make $$\mathbb{R}^4$$ into a field.)
Thanks for that reply, Opalg ... really informative ...

Now ... you write the following:

" ... ... In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ into a field. ... ... "

Intriguing ...

Now how would you go about formally and rigorously proving that ... can you indicate the broad nature of the proof ...

Thanks again ...

Peter
 
Peter said:
Now ... you write the following:

" ... ... In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make $$\mathbb{R}^n$$ into a field. ... ... "

Intriguing ...

Now how would you go about formally and rigorously proving that ... can you indicate the broad nature of the proof ...
This is not an area that I am really familiar with. I believe that the result goes back to Frobenius in the 19th century.

When $n=2$ it is of course possible to make the space $\Bbb{R}^2$ into a field, with the complex number multiplication that is given by identifying $\Bbb{R}^2$ with $\Bbb{C}$. But $\Bbb{C}$ is an algebraically closed field, which implies that it has no proper algebraic extensions. That somehow implies that it is the end of the road: it cannot be embedded in any larger field. In particular, that stops $\Bbb{R}^n$ from having a field structure when $n>2$.
 

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