The Feynman Diagrams of Quantum Electrodynamics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the drawing and interpretation of Feynman diagrams in quantum electrodynamics, focusing on the representation of gauge bosons and the substitution of mediator particles in various processes. It includes questions about the conditions under which certain representations are used and the implications of substituting particles in diagrams.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Owen inquires about the conditions for drawing gauge bosons vertically versus horizontally in Feynman diagrams, suggesting that it may depend on the specific physical process being represented.
  • Some participants propose that the substitution of a mediator photon with a Z boson is generally acceptable, but they encourage consideration of the reasons behind this substitution and the contexts in which it is typically overlooked.
  • A later reply notes that while the substitution of a photon with a Z boson can be made in many cases, there are specific situations, such as interactions involving neutrinos, where this substitution is not valid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for drawing gauge bosons and the validity of substituting particles in Feynman diagrams. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific criteria for these representations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific physical processes being discussed and the potential for ambiguity in the substitution of particles in certain interactions.

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Hi all,
I'm just getting started on particle physics and I have a few foolish :shy: questions about drawing feynman diagram.
First, when do we draw the gauge bosons(such as W) vertically rather than horizontally through time?
Second, can we always replace mediator photon by Z boson? Does that represent real processes, real or virtual whatsoever?

Thank you so much

Regards

Owen
 
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kokolovehuh said:
First, when do we draw the gauge bosons(such as W) vertically rather than horizontally through time?
This is completely dependent on the process! In general it just depends on which diagrams you can draw corresponding to the relevant physical situation. To take a concrete example, the first order contributions to Bhabha scattering contains both.

Second, can we always replace mediator photon by Z boson? Does that represent real processes, real or virtual whatsoever?

In general yes, and try to think about why we can make that specific substitution as opposed to any other and also why this diagram is typically neglected.
 
Thanks a lot! It really helps
 
Nabeshin said:
In general yes, and try to think about why we can make that specific substitution as opposed to any other and also why this diagram is typically neglected.

Note, though, that the reverse is not true. There is at least one type of situation in which a Z cannot be replaced by photon - interactions involving neutrinos.
 

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