# Homework Help: The force of friction moving up a slope

1. Oct 19, 2008

### tyler24_11

A grocery cart is being pushed with a force of 450 N at an angle of 30.0 degrees to the horizontal. If the mass of the groceries is 42 Kg,
(a) Calaculate the force of friction if the coefficient is 0.60.

Alright guys I have been doing this problem for around two hours. My physics teacher isn't a good teacher and I have no idea how to get the right answer(located in the back of book).

Ive tried all I can think of,
Ff= (0.60)(450n)
= 270n

450 COS 30
= 389.7 N
and a bunch of othe stuff I erased off my paper

The answer in the back is 3.8 x 102 or around 380 n

2. Oct 19, 2008

### Integral

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What is the mass of the cart and groceries?

3. Oct 19, 2008

### tyler24_11

it doesn't say just assume 42kg I geuss

4. Oct 20, 2008

### LowlyPion

The 450 N force has 2 components. There is the Cos30 component forward, but there is also the Sin30 component down. Sin30*450 N + 42*(9.8) N = 225 + 411.6 N = 636.6 N in the downward direction.

Then you use your coefficient of friction based on the total downward force.

5. Oct 20, 2008

### tyler24_11

yah, thanks. I figured it out last night. I drew a diagram