The group operation on G*G is multiplication.

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The problem involves a group G and the set A defined as G * G. The task is to prove that the set T, consisting of pairs (g, g) for each g in G, is isomorphic to G. The discussion revolves around understanding the properties of A and T, particularly in relation to group operations and isomorphisms.

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  • Participants question the assumptions made about the abelian nature of A and G * G, and whether T is a subgroup of G or A. There is discussion about the definition of the group operation in A and the requirements for establishing an isomorphism between T and G.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the need to clarify definitions and operations. There is no explicit consensus, but several participants are exploring the implications of the definitions and properties of the groups involved.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definition of G * G and the group operation on this set, which is critical for the discussion of isomorphism. Participants express confusion about the implications of G being abelian and the nature of T as a subgroup.

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Homework Statement


Let G be a group, A = G * G. In A, Let T = {(g, g)|g ε G}. Prove that T is isomorphic to G.


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The Attempt at a Solution


A is abelian. Therefore, G * G is abelian. T is a subgroup of G.

I am not sure if my above inferences are even correct. Can someone guide me as to the thought process on this please? Thank you.
 
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I don't see how you could have inferred any of those, or why you would need to.

You are asked to show that ##G## and ##T## are isomorphic. There is an obvious candidate for an isomorphism, so you should just verify that it actually is one.
 
And for that matter, you haven't told us what G*G means.
 
LCKurtz said:
And for that matter, you haven't told us what G*G means.

A = G * G, as in G cross G.
I do not understand how T is directly isomorphic to G.
 
Justabeginner said:

Homework Statement


Let G be a group, A = G * G. In A, Let T = {(g, g)|g ε G}. Prove that T is isomorphic to G.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


A is abelian. Therefore, G * G is abelian. T is a subgroup of G.
How'd you get A is abelian?

If A is abelian, then obviously GxG is abelian since A=GxG.

How can T be a subgroup of G when it's not a subset of G? It's a subset of A, right?

How did you define the group multiplication for A?

I am not sure if my above inferences are even correct. Can someone guide me as to the thought process on this please? Thank you.
 
Justabeginner said:

Homework Statement


Let G be a group, A = G * G. In A, Let T = {(g, g)|g ε G}. Prove that T is isomorphic to G.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


A is abelian.

There is nothing in the question to suggest this. If G is not abelian then A will not be abelian.

Therefore, G * G is abelian. T is a subgroup of G.

Actually T is a subgroup of A.

I am not sure if my above inferences are even correct. Can someone guide me as to the thought process on this please?

You need to find a bijection \phi : G \to T such that \phi(g)\phi(h) = \phi(gh) for every g \in G and h \in G.

It would be good to start by writing out the group operation of A, and see what happens when you restrict it to T.
 
LCKurtz said:
And for that matter, you haven't told us what G*G means.

Justabeginner said:
A = G * G, as in G cross G.
I do not understand how T is directly isomorphic to G.

What is the group operation on G*G? You have to know that before you can even talk about an isomorphism.
 

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