The Lie algebra of ##\frak{so}(3)## without complexification

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lie algebra of ##\frak{so}(3)## without resorting to complexification, which typically involves transitioning to ##\frak{su}(2) + i \frak{su}(2) \cong \frak{sl}(2,\mathbb{C})##. The participants emphasize the need to utilize the Cartan subalgebra and root vectors to achieve this derivation. It is established that breaking the symmetry of the algebra is essential for identifying the generator of the Cartan subalgebra, which necessitates the use of complex numbers. Relevant resources for further exploration include insights on basis transformations and the root system of Lie algebras.

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Can the Lie algebra of ##\frak{so}(3)## (or ##\frak{su}(2)##) be formulated without complexification utilizing the Cartan subalgebra?
All of the formulations of the Lie algebra of ##\frak{so}(3)## (or ##\frak{su}(2)##) utilizing raising/lowering operators that I have seen in the literature involve complexification to ##\frak{su}(2) + i \frak{su}(2) \cong \frak{sl}(2,\mathbb{C})##. I have found explicit derivations in a particular representation, but none from the Cartan subalgebra.

Can one derive a formulation of the Lie algebra of ##\frak{so}(3)## utilizing the Cartan subalgebra and root vectors without complexification? If so, where can I find it?
 
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$$\mathfrak{so}(3)\cong \left(\mathbb{R}^3,\times\right)=\bigl\langle U,V,W\,|\,[U,V]=W,[V,W]=U,[W,U]=V \bigr\rangle $$
We need to break that symmetry in order to get the representation via the root system that specifies the generator of the Cartan subalgebra which is not symmetric. We therefore need complex numbers for the isomorphism. You can find the basis transformations at
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/journey-manifold-su2-part-ii/

For a description of how the root system works, see
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/lie-algebras-a-walkthrough-the-structures/
and the general basis of real orthogonal Lie algebras here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/insig...hogonal-Lie-Algebra-On-Odd-Dimensional-Spaces
 
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