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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the long-term future of atmospheric CO2 levels and their implications for plant life and photosynthesis. Participants explore the potential depletion of CO2 due to geological processes and the impact of human activity on these levels, considering both theoretical and speculative aspects.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions a statistic about atmospheric CO2 depletion over 500 million years, suggesting it could hinder photosynthesis, while also implying that global warming might not be as detrimental.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the 500 million-year timeframe and the assumptions regarding volcanic outgassing, labeling the initial claim as speculative.
  • A third participant provides a reference to the long carbon cycle, discussing the dynamic equilibrium of CO2 levels and the role of volcanic activity in returning CO2 to the atmosphere, while also questioning the assumptions about historical CO2 levels.
  • A fourth participant references a book related to the topic but does not provide specific details or claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the initial claim regarding CO2 depletion and its implications. There is no consensus on the timeframe or the assumptions made about geological processes and human impact.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for references and question the assumptions underlying the claims made, indicating a lack of clarity on the dynamics of the carbon cycle and historical CO2 levels.

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Readers interested in climate science, geology, and the long-term implications of atmospheric changes on plant life may find this discussion relevant.

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This is an interesting statistic I read recently... apparently, in 500 million years the atmospheric CO2 will have been vastly depleted due to it reacting with silicon and being stored underground. The CO2 levels will then be too low to allow photosynthesis to occur. This statistic, presumably does not take into account the human impact on CO2 levels… perhaps global warming is not so bad after all.
 
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Could you cite your source?

I'm just guessing: the authors are assuming no more atmospheric outgassing from volcanoes. Why 500 million years?

Without more to go on this sounds like pure speculation...
 
it would be nice if you could support such a statement with a reference.

For instance here is something about the long carbon cycle.

http://www.columbia.edu/~vjd1/carbon.htm

Indeed CO2 is depleting from the atmosphere due to chemical reactions with silicates forming limestones but these limestones are decomposed by volcanic activity bringing CO2 back into the atmosphere. The question would indeed be if this process is in dynamic equilibrium or at which concentration the CO2 would decrease in equilibrium.

Estimates for that may be based on the assumption that CO2 was much higher in the geologic past. Recent research however suggests that these past levels may be lower than always assumed. For instance Royer 2003 See fig 3 on page 8, suggesting that the CO2 level during the last 60-70 million years was comparable to nowadays around 300-400 ppmv.

But in the end the avaiable carbon in the carbon cycle is directly related to the possible total size of the biomass.
 
I can't recall the exact title of the book but it was something like "Autobiography of earth" or "Earth story"...

I'll finds out later on and post it up. It's deffinatley worth a read.
 

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