The minimum radius of a plane's circular path

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum radius of a stunt airplane's circular path based on the pilot's acceleration. The pilot's weight and the forces acting on the plane are considered, with the maximum allowable acceleration set at 7.0g. The calculations involve using the net force equations, where the normal force is the sum of gravitational force and the force due to acceleration. Discrepancies in the calculated radius arise from differences in interpreting the forces involved, particularly the relationship between normal force and gravitational force. Ultimately, the correct minimum radius is approximately 3.3 x 10^2 m, highlighting the importance of precise calculations in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


An 82 kg pilot flying a stunt airplane pulls out of a dive at a constant speed of 540 km/h.
a) What is the minimum radius of the plane's circular path if the pilot's acceleration at the lowest point is not to exceed 7.0g.

Homework Equations


Fg = mg
Fnet = mv^2/r
Fnet = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


At the lowest point I said that there were only 2 forces acting on the plane: Fg and I said Fn for the upward lift on the plane.

m=82 kg
v=540 km/h=150 m/s
a=7.0g

Fnet = mv^2/r=ma
Fnet = Fn - Fg = ma
Fnet = (82 kg)(7 x 9.8 N/kg) - (82 kg)(9.8 N/kg)
= 4821.6 N = mv^2/r
4821.6 N = [(82 kg)(150 m/s)^2]/r
r=[(82 kg)(150 m/s)^2]/4821.6 N
= 382.65 m
= 3.8 x 10^2 m

The answer is actually 3.3 x 10^2 m... The book is sometimes wrong though.

What did I do wrong?

Thanks.
 
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I'm not sure what you did (your calculations are a bit messy), but here are the two equations I derived:

n= m(g+a_{y}) = 6435.36 N

r = \frac{mv^{2}}{n-mg} = \frac{(82)(150^{2})}{6435.36-(82)(9.81)} = 3.27 \cdot 10^{2} \, m
 
Vykan12 said:
I'm not sure what you did (your calculations are a bit messy), but here are the two equations I derived:

n= m(g+a_{y}) = 6435.36 N

r = \frac{mv^{2}}{n-mg} = \frac{(82)(150^{2})}{6435.36-(82)(9.81)} = 3.27 \cdot 10^{2} \, m

That's essentially what I did, but I thought that the net force was Fn - Fg... How come it is Fn + Fg?

Attached is what I thought the FBD should look like.
 

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F_{net} = n - mg = ma \iff n = mg + ma = m(g+a)
 
Vykan12 said:
F_{net} = n - mg = ma \iff n = mg + ma = m(g+a)

What's n? I think we use different symbols where I take this course...
 
n is the normal force of the pilot.
 
Vykan12 said:
n is the normal force of the pilot.

Ok, that's what I thought... Thanks.
 

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