The Mystery of Inherent Radiation in Plants: A Search for Answers

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The discussion revolves around the topic of inherent radiation in plants, exploring the potential health implications of consuming plants that may contain radioactive elements. Participants are seeking research and insights into the levels of radiation present in various plants and the safety of consuming them.

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  • One participant is searching for published research on the amount of inherent radiation in plants, expressing concern about the safety of consuming plants with radiation.
  • Another participant discusses background radiation from naturally occurring isotopes like Potassium-40, Uranium, and Thorium, suggesting that avoiding certain foods may be impractical.
  • Concerns are raised about heavy metals in food, with examples provided about arsenic in rice due to historical agricultural practices.
  • A participant mentions the presence of radioactive Polonium in tobacco leaves and speculates about its presence in other plants.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of providing credible sources for claims made about radiation in plants.
  • A hypothesis is proposed regarding the correlation between carbon dating and measuring inherent radiation in plants, highlighting the need for further research.
  • Participants suggest using Google Scholar to find relevant research papers on radiation exposure related to food safety.

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Participants express a range of views on the topic, with no consensus on the safety of consuming plants with inherent radiation or the extent of the issue. Some participants focus on the need for credible research, while others highlight the broader context of food safety and environmental factors.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the health implications of radiation in plants and the challenges of avoiding certain isotopes and heavy metals. There are also references to specific studies and the need for more precise definitions and research methodologies.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals concerned about food safety, researchers in the fields of biology and environmental science, and those exploring the health implications of consuming plants with potential radioactive content.

  • #31
Carbon isotopes are used in carbon dating, which depends on measuring carbon isotope ratios that differ from what occurs in the atmosphere. All fixed carbon comes from photosynthesis ultimately.

Fractionation of carbon isotopes in oxygenic photosynthesis is the driver. Lighter isotopes are fixed into sugars.

So yes, isotopes of carbon would meet your requirement.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractionation_of_carbon_isotopes_in_oxygenic_photosynthesis
 
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  • #32
gleem said:
A 70 kg human has on average 116,200 pCi of K40 in their bodies at all times and always will unless you can obtain isotopically pure K39 to replace it with.
As I recall there was some early studies about the natural radioactivity of K40 being the electrical 'starter' of heartbeats, but I'm not sure how far could they go with the research.
 
  • #33
Thanks Keith ! I am very interested in this. I wonder if people know that butter beans have more radiation than bananas. It was also interesting to note that water made the top ten! And I thought beer was healthy :)

But in reality, since the International Atomic Energy Agency states (https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/new...s-discuss-harmonizing-international-standards) that :

"All foods contain natural radionuclides, which are transferred from the soil to the crops on land and from water to fish in rivers, lakes and the sea. Levels of natural radionuclides in food and drinking water are generally very low and safe for human consumption. However, they can vary considerably depending on local geology, climate and agricultural practices. " THERE IS NO REAL STANDARD, thus the reason for this conference.

Note that "... Lieve Sweeck from the Belgian nuclear research centre SCK•CEN noted, assessing the movement and accumulation of natural radionuclides in the environment and in the food chain is important because the largest part of most people’s radiation dose comes from natural sources. "

I am interested in the extraction of radiation, validated via Carbon 14 dating, from plants. I am confident that a simple process for performing the extraction will be published soon.
 

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