The name of the 3+1 metric where time is normal to space?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a specific metric in which time is orthogonal to space, characterized by the condition that the time-space components of the metric tensor are zero everywhere. Participants explore the implications of this condition, its relation to known metrics, and the possibility of extending spatial slices throughout spacetime.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to identify a metric where the time coordinate is normal to space, specifically where the time-space components of the metric tensor are zero.
  • Another participant suggests the Minkowski metric but acknowledges it as a special case with restrictions on the spatial components.
  • A participant clarifies that the desired metric has no restrictions on the spatial components and discusses the implications of having only certain derivatives constrained.
  • There is a discussion about whether it is always possible to extend a spatial 3-space throughout spacetime under the given conditions, with one participant suggesting it may be possible based on the number of constrained derivatives.
  • Contrarily, another participant argues that it is not always possible to find such a coordinate chart in every spacetime, providing Kerr spacetime as an example where the condition cannot be met.
  • The term "hypersurface orthogonal" is mentioned, though it is noted that it typically applies to spacetimes with time translation symmetry, which does not encompass all cases of interest.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of a general term for the metric in question and whether it is possible to extend the spatial slices throughout spacetime. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general applicability of the conditions described.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the condition of having time normal to space may not hold universally across all spacetimes, and specific examples like Kerr spacetime illustrate the complexity of the issue. The discussion highlights the limitations of existing terminology and the need for further exploration of the topic.

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I am interested in looking at the metric where time is everywhere normal to space, so gta=0 everywhere, where t is the time coordinate and 'a' is any of the space coordinates. I'm finding it hard to look up in the literature: does it have a name that I can search for?

My main interest is in seeing which space/times can be described by it, and which (if any) can't. I think I remember that any chart can be re-expressed in this form, but I can't find that in my textbooks.
 
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fresh_42 said:
No, Minkowski is a special case. The metric I want has no restrictions on gab where a and b are space dimensions (Minkowski by contrast has gab=0 where a≠b).

In the metric I want, only gta and its derivatives are zero.

In particular, I am interested in whether given a spatial 3 space which is part of a time slice of a space/time taken so that time is normal to the 3 surface, is it always possible to extend that throughout the space time? The fact that there are only 6 constrained derivatives (gta,b where b is a space coordinate normal to the edge of the surface bounding the 3 space), suggests it is possible.

I'm then interested in knowing if one can evolve this 3 space forward in time. The fact that there are then only 3 constrained derivatives again suggests it is possible, and if it is not I would like to understand how it becomes impossible.
 
gnnmartin said:
In the metric I want, only gta and its derivatives are zero.

I don't know that there's a general term for a spacetime geometry that meets this condition--that one can find a coordinate chart in which the timelike basis vector ##\partial_t## is everywhere orthogonal to spacelike surfaces of constant time. The term I would use is "hypersurface orthogonal", but that term usually has a more restricted application, to spacetimes with time translation symmetry (a timelike Killing vector field). However, for example, FRW spacetime meets your condition, but it does not have time translation symmetry (it describes an expanding universe).

gnnmartin said:
I am interested in whether given a spatial 3 space which is part of a time slice of a space/time taken so that time is normal to the 3 surface, is it always possible to extend that throughout the space time?

No, it isn't. In fact it's not even possible to find a coordinate chart on every spacetime in which any spacelike surface of constant coordinate time is orthogonal to the timelike basis vector ##\partial_t## at more than one event. For an example, look at Kerr spacetime. Matt Visser's paper is a good resource:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/0706.0622.pdf

He discusses a number of possible coordinate charts on Kerr spacetime, but none of them meet your requirement, and I'm pretty sure it's been proven that it is impossible to find one that does on this spacetime.

robphy said:
Possibly useful:

A static spacetime meets the OP's condition, yes, but as above, so does FRW spacetime, which is not static or even stationary. So the condition the OP is interested in is more general.
 
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Peter, thanks.
 

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