The old problem of the virtual particles

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The discussion centers around the concept of virtual particles and their relationship with the conservation of energy, particularly in the context of quantum field theory (QFT) and the energy-time uncertainty principle. Participants explore the implications of virtual particles, their existence, and their role in phenomena like the Casimir Effect.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about virtual particles and their relation to energy conservation, referencing Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
  • Another participant suggests that virtual particles are field quanta similar to photons and are integral to understanding quantum mechanics.
  • A different viewpoint argues that energy conservation is not violated by virtual particles, stating that energy does not have meaning over very short time intervals.
  • One participant questions the necessity of the energy-time uncertainty relation in explaining virtual particles within QFT.
  • A participant references a previous thread discussing the issue, indicating that it has been a topic of extensive debate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of virtual particles or their implications for energy conservation. Multiple competing views are presented, with some arguing for their physical existence and others suggesting they are merely mathematical constructs.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of virtual particles, as well as the conditions under which energy conservation is considered in quantum mechanics. The relationship between virtual particles and the energy-time uncertainty principle remains unclear.

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Before Posting This , I spent nearly an entire day googling the problem of virtual particles and the conservation of energy , but it only got me more confused :confused:

Let's review this problem from the beginning :
Due to Heisenberg's uncertainty relation between time and energy \Delta t \Delta E \gtrsim \hbar , virtual particles are allowed to be created and then annihilated in very very short time . The problem arises from the fact that the creation of the virtual particles violates the law of the conservation of energy : "Energy Cannot be Created or Destroyed"
some of the solutions of this problem (that I've read during my googling day) is that the virtual particles are some sort of mathematical tools in QFT calculations that doesn't have physical existence , If This is true , What about The Casimir Effect ? didn't it prove the existence of virtual particles ?

How can this problem be solved ?

thanks in advance ...
 
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Virtual particles come from the fact that quantum mechanics is, well, quantum. Like photons are the quanta of EM fields, virtual particles are also field quanta, of things such as the coulomb force and magnetic dipole force. The Casmir Effect is also due to the quantization of the fields.

This is one of the aspects of QM that 'makes more sense' when particles are thought of in terms of mass/energy quanta, rather than billiard balls.
 
Energy conservation is not violated by virtual particles: Energy does not make sense on short time intervals: it takes time for energy/mass to manifest itself, so in fact nothing is violated.
 
I understand (at least I THINK I understand) the concept of virtual particles in QFT, but what I never really understood is what the exact relationship with this concept is with the energy-time uncertainty principle
<br /> \Delta t \Delta E \gtrsim \hbar<br />
I have the feeling that in QFT you don't need this relation at all to explain virtual particles, right?
 
the one said:
Before Posting This , I spent nearly an entire day googling the problem of virtual particles and the conservation of energy , but it only got me more confused :confused:

Let's review this problem from the beginning :
Due to Heisenberg's uncertainty relation between time and energy \Delta t \Delta E \gtrsim \hbar , virtual particles are allowed to be created and then annihilated in very very short time . The problem arises from the fact that the creation of the virtual particles violates the law of the conservation of energy : "Energy Cannot be Created or Destroyed"
some of the solutions of this problem (that I've read during my googling day) is that the virtual particles are some sort of mathematical tools in QFT calculations that doesn't have physical existence , If This is true , What about The Casimir Effect ? didn't it prove the existence of virtual particles ?

How can this problem be solved ?

thanks in advance ...

Please read an entry in the FAQ thread in the General Physics forum.

Zz.
 

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