The Optical Theorem (Total cross section?)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the optical theorem, specifically its implications for the total cross section in scattering processes. Participants explore the definitions and interpretations of the total cross section and the scattering amplitude, as well as the broader theoretical context of the optical theorem.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of the forward direction in the context of the scattering amplitude, suggesting it may refer to the direction parallel to the incident wave.
  • Another participant confirms that the forward direction does indeed refer to the parallel direction, not the antiparallel.
  • A participant describes the total cross section as the integral of the incoming wave function scattered in all directions around the scatterer, indicating a conceptual understanding of the total cross section.
  • It is noted that the total cross section encompasses both elastic and inelastic scattering channels, while the elastic scattering amplitude is referenced on the right-hand side of the optical theorem equation.
  • A later reply mentions that the optical theorem can be generalized beyond single-particle scattering, linking it to fundamental principles of S-matrix theory, causality, and unitarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the definitions of the forward direction and the total cross section, but there are nuances regarding the interpretation of the optical theorem and its applications that remain open for discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the generalization of the optical theorem and its implications for different types of scattering processes, as well as the relationship between elastic and inelastic channels in the context of the total cross section.

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I am going over the optical theorem (specifically from Sakurai) and I just have a simple couple of questions. The optical theorem says

\sigma_{total}=\frac{4\pi}{k}\text{Im}(f(0))

Where ##f(0)## is the scattering amplitude in the forward direction. (Which I am assuming means the direction parallel to the incident direction. Or does it mean in the direction back towards the source?)

I just want to verify what is meant by the total cross section. To me the total cross section means the amount the incoming wave function is scattered integrated in all directions over a sphere around the scatterer. Is this the correct way of thinking?
 
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Xyius said:
(Which I am assuming means the direction parallel to the incident direction. Or does it mean in the direction back towards the source?)
The parallel one, not the antiparallel.
Xyius said:
To me the total cross section means the amount the incoming wave function is scattered integrated in all directions over a sphere around the scatterer
Differential cross-section is defined as the fraction of the scattered probability current at certain direction, fraction means relative to the incoming probability current. The total cross section is the sum of differential cross section over all directions.
 
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Thank you! (Sorry for the late reply!)
 
It's worth mentioning that on the left-hand side stands the total cross section, including both elastic and inelastic channels, while on the right-hand side there's the elastic scattering amplitude.

The optical theorem can be generalized to more general scattering processes than just single-particle scattering on a potential. It reflects the very fundamental principles of S-matrix theory, causality and unitarity and is closely linked to detailed balance in kinetic theory.
 

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