MHB The Origin of the \hat x Term in Evaluating Double Integrals over Triangles

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of the integral I_{mn} defined as I_{mn} = ∫_Δ x^m y^n dx dy, questioning whether it qualifies as a double integral due to the dx dy notation. It is clarified that while dx dy indicates an iterated integral, the dA differential represents a double integral, with the latter being a more general concept. The conversation also touches on the evaluation of the integral ∫_Δ x dx dy, which results in A \hat x, where \hat x is derived from the average of the triangle's vertices. The origin of \hat x is linked to the coordinates of the triangle, emphasizing its geometric significance. Overall, the thread explores the nuances of double integrals and their applications in evaluating integrals over triangular regions.
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Folks,

Self reading a book in which an equation is given as

I_{mn}\equiv\int_{\Delta} x^m y^n dx dy

where we are integrating an expression of the form x^m y^n over an arbirtrary triangle.

Is the above actually a double integral because of the dxdy term? Ie can this be written

I_{mn}\equiv\int_{\Delta} x^m y^n dx dy= \int \int_{D} x^m y^n dA where D is the triangle?

Thanks
 
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Technically, the $dA$ differential is a double integral, and $dx \, dy$ differentials signify an iterated integral. I think many authors don't make a huge distinction between the two. The double integral is the more general concept - a particular iterated integral is coordinate dependent, usually.
 
Ackbach said:
Technically, the $dA$ differential is a double integral, and $dx \, dy$ differentials signify an iterated integral. I think many authors don't make a huge distinction between the two. The double integral is the more general concept - a particular iterated integral is coordinate dependent, usually.

Thanks for that.

I have found a nice link - Double integrals as iterated integrals - Math Insight

Cheers
 
bugatti79 said:
Folks,

Self reading a book in which an equation is given as

I_{mn}\equiv\int_{\Delta} x^m y^n dx dy

where we are integrating an expression of the form x^m y^n over an arbirtrary triangle.

Is the above actually a double integral because of the dxdy term? Ie can this be written

I_{mn}\equiv\int_{\Delta} x^m y^n dx dy= \int \int_{D} x^m y^n dA where D is the triangle?

Thanks

In the book I am reading they evaluate the following integral to be

\int_{\Delta} x dx dy= A \hat x where

\displaystyle \hat x= \frac{1}{3} \Sigma_{i=1}^3 x_i and A=\int_{\Delta} dx dy=xy

Where does \hat x come from? I realize its to do with the 3 coordinates of the triangle...
 
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