The Pantheon of Derivatives - Sections, Pullbacks And Pushforwards (III)

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical concepts of vector fields, tangent bundles, and their relevance in modern physics, particularly in the context of differential equations on manifolds, general relativity, and quantum field theory. Participants explore the definitions and implications of vector bundles and tangent spaces, as well as their applications in classical mechanics.

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  • One participant discusses the abstraction required in the treatment of vector fields and their physical relevance, particularly in solving differential equations on non-Euclidean geometric objects.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of tangent bundles, explaining that at each point on a manifold, there exists a tangent space that spans the vector space at that point.
  • A later post presents an example of a nontrivial tangent bundle, specifically the tangent bundle of the two-dimensional sphere, and questions the existence of a non-zero vector field across all points on the sphere.
  • Participants also mention the role of tangent and cotangent bundles in classical mechanics, highlighting the definitions of the Lagrangian and Hamiltonian in relation to these bundles.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interest in the concepts presented, but there is no clear consensus on the implications or necessity of these mathematical constructs in physics.

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The discussion touches on complex mathematical structures and their applications, but does not resolve the implications of these structures in physical theories or the existence of certain vector fields.

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Whereas the terminology of vector fields, trajectories, and flows almost by itself suggests its origins and physical relevance, the general treatment of vector fields, however, requires some abstractions. The following might appear to be purely mathematical constructions, and I will restrict myself to a minimum, but they actually occur in modern physics: from the daily need to solve differential equations on various (non-Euclidean) geometric objects like in general relativity or quantum field theory, to the front end research in cosmology.

Vector Bundles​

The tangents on a manifold ##M## define a vector field in a natural way. That is, at each point ##x \in M## there are the tangents to all possible curves through ##x## and they span the tangent (vector) space ##TM|_x## at this point. If ##M## is an m-dimensional manifold, then ##\left. TM\right|_x## is an m-dimensional vector space with the local coordinates ##\frac{\partial}{\partial x^1},\ldots , \frac{\partial}{\partial x^m} ##. Now we consider the collection of all these tangent spaces, i.e. for all points of ##M##. This gives us a collection
\begin{equation}\label{TM}
TM= \bigcup_{x \in M}\left. TM\right|_x
\end{equation}
which we call tangent bundle of ##M##. This can be generalized to an arbitrary vector field, in which case it is called a vector bundle. Note that these objects are actually tangent space bundles, resp. vector space bundles.


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There is also a simple example of a nontrivial tangent bundle. Namely it is ##TS^2##; here ##S^2## is the two dimensional sphere. If ##TS^2=\mathbb{R}^2\times S^2## then there exists a vector field ##v(x)## such that ##v(x)\ne 0## for all ##x\in S^2##. But we know that this is not true

And another pretty thing is: why does physics need all these objects ? Simplest example: In classical mechanics the Lagrangian ##L=L(q,\dot q)## is defined on a tangent bundle of configuration manifold while the Hamiltonian ##H=H(q,p)## is a function of cotangent bundle of the configuration manifold: ##L:TM\to\mathbb{R},\quad H:T^*M\to \mathbb{R}##
 
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