The pendulum is released from rest with θ = 30deg

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Homework Statement


13.54 The pentulum is released from rest with θ = 30deg. (a) Derive the equation of motion
using θ as the independent variable. (b) Determine the speed of the bob as a function of θ.
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The solutions given in the textbok are a) ##\ddot θ = -4.905sinθ rad/s^2##
b) ##6.26\sqrt {cosθ - 0.866} m/s##

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The Attempt at a Solution



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I understand something is not correct.
I guess the positive direction for the bob now is to the left.
 
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Hi! After doing some research on the web I came up with the following solution (by an engineer)
I don't understand though why he took ##a_T## to be ##-rα##. Does it has to do with the
the tangential and radial axes sense?
He mentions ##F=ma_T## as an inertial force.

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Alexanddros81 said:
took ##a_T## to be −rα
If you start with arc length = radius x arc angle then differentiate twice wrt time you will get this. The sign depends on your conventions. In vectors, ##\vec {a_T}=\vec r\times\ddot{\vec\theta}##.
You can get the second result (velocity) by integrating or by work conservation.
 
Alexanddros81 said:
Hi! After doing some research on the web I came up with the following solution (by an engineer)
I don't understand though why he took ##a_T## to be ##-rα##. Does it has to do with the
the tangential and radial axes sense?
He mentions ##F=ma_T## as an inertial force.

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Your last result v = 6.26√(cosθ - cos30deg) is correct.