The physical meaning of expansion in cosmology

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The discussion focuses on understanding the concept of expansion in cosmology without heavy reliance on mathematics. It emphasizes that space should not be objectified as a material substance; instead, it is better to describe it as distances increasing in a regular pattern. The thread explains Hubble's Law as a way to articulate the observed increase in distances between stationary observers, with current rates of expansion noted as approximately 1/140 of a percent every million years. The conversation also touches on General Relativity, acknowledging its limitations while highlighting its predictive power regarding geometry and distance changes. Ultimately, the aim is to clarify misconceptions about space and spacetime, reinforcing that the expansion of distances is a more accurate description than saying "space expands."
  • #31
Garth said:
The "space that expands" is that described by the FRW metric - yes it does require a smattering of GR and also the interpretation of the observation of Hubble red shift, marcus has clearly defined it and distinguished it from 'ordinary space'.

Garth

Perhaps one simplistic model, might be to think of a manifold (i.e. continuum) being stretched uniformly for a given stage of universe (i.e. for given value of Hubble parameter). Then concomitantly (i.e. for given value of Hubble parameter), one also has local depressions forming (i.e. indentations i.e. curvature), representing local gravitational aggregation.
 
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  • #32
Garth said:
Such as "cosmological space"??

Garth
Yes. This is well defined. Just 'space' --- so often used --- is much too vague for informed discussions.
 
  • #33
marcus said:
This post is admittedly vague---it is merely meant to convey my attitude about GR. Briefly, my attitude is don't live in a straight-jacket of Greek expectations about geometry.
I feel I should point out that even the Greeks were capable of imagining non-Euclidean phenomena; e.g. that a pair of lines, in defiance of the Parallel postulate, could be in a situation where the interior angles add up to less than 180°, but the lines merely tended towards each other indefinitely without crossing. And, of course, they had all those lively debates about our notions of space. :smile:
 

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