The ratio of the gravitational force between electron and proton

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the ratio of the gravitational force between an electron and a proton to the electrostatic force in a hydrogen atom. The established formula for the electrostatic force is given by Fe = (1/4πε0)*(q^2/r^2) and for gravitational force by Fg = G m^2/r^2. The final answer for the ratio Fg/Fe is determined to be 4.39 x 10-40. Additionally, it is clarified that doubling the radius of the atom does not affect the ratio as the radius is not included in the formula.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electrostatic force and gravitational force equations
  • Familiarity with constants such as G (gravitational constant) and ε0 (permittivity of free space)
  • Knowledge of the masses of subatomic particles, specifically the electron and proton
  • Basic grasp of atomic models and their implications in physics
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  • Study the derivation of the electrostatic force equation, Fe = (1/4πε0)*(q^2/r^2)
  • Explore gravitational force calculations using Fg = G m2/r2
  • Investigate the implications of atomic radius on force ratios in different atomic models
  • Learn about the significance of the constants G and ε0 in physics
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Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on atomic models, gravitational and electrostatic forces, and anyone tackling homework related to these concepts.

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Homework Statement


Some of the earliest atomic models held that the orbital velocity of an electron in an atom could be correlated with the radius of the atom. If the radius of the hydrogen atom is 10^−10 m and the electrostatic force is responsible for the circular motion of the electron, what is the ratio of the gravitational force between electron and proton to the electrostatic force? How does this ratio change if the radius of the atom is doubled? Explain {Answer: Fg/Fe = 4.39 x 10-40}.


Homework Equations



fe = (1/4πε0)*(q^2/r^2)
fg = G m^2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer says Fg/Fe, so I divided fg/fe to get (Gm^2)/((9*10^9)q^2). I tried every different way possible but cannot manage to get the correct answer. Can anyone help me solve this problem, I've been stuck for a long time. I preferred you show me how to do it and how you got to the final answer.
 
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What are you using as the masses? One of them would be the mass of a proton; the other would be the mass of an electron.
 
Maybe my formula is wrong . Do you think this formula would be correct? G*me*mp/(9*10^9 n m^2/c^2)*q1*q2?
 
Oh never mind. I got the answer. How does the ratio change if radius if atom is doubled?
 
What do you think - does it look like the formula depends on the radius?
 
Since the radius isn't included in the formula. I'm assuming it doesn't matter?
 
Yep.
 

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