The right amount of Resources for a self-study attempt

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The discussion revolves around the resources and texts suitable for self-studying physics at the undergraduate level. Participants share recommendations for books and courses that align with topics such as Classical Mechanics, Electricity and Magnetism, Quantum Mechanics, and more, while addressing the challenges of selecting appropriate materials for learning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over which texts to use alongside MIT-OCW lectures for Classical Mechanics and Electricity and Magnetism, mentioning specific books they currently have and asking for advice on additional resources.
  • Several participants suggest various introductory texts, including Kleppner & Kolenkow for mechanics, Morin & Purcell for E&M, and French for waves and vibrations, indicating a range of preferences.
  • There is a mention of advanced texts for General Relativity, with participants recommending Hartle, Schwartz, Dirac, Carroll, and Zee, while cautioning against starting with more complex texts like MTW and Wald.
  • For Quantum Mechanics, participants recommend Griffiths, Gasiorowicz, Shankar, Ballantine, and Sakurai, indicating a variety of suitable options.
  • One participant questions the usefulness of Halliday, Resnick, and Walker's "Fundamentals of Physics," expressing concern about its relevance to their studies.
  • Another participant notes that Walter Lewin's courses involve calculus and suggests adding a multivariable calculus book if the learner is not comfortable with certain mathematical notations.
  • There are discussions about supplementing physics studies with linear and multivariable math courses available on OCW, with one participant sharing a positive experience with MIT's multivariable calculus course.
  • One participant lists a structured approach to studying various topics in physics, recommending specific texts for each area, including thermodynamics and quantum physics.
  • Another participant expresses satisfaction with Griffiths for E&M and plans to study it alongside French's Newtonian Mechanics, while also mentioning their progress with Halliday and Resnick.

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Participants present multiple competing views on the best resources for self-study, with no consensus on the superiority of any particular text. Some express preferences for certain books while others challenge their effectiveness, indicating a lack of agreement on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations are based on personal experiences and preferences, which may not universally apply. The discussion reflects varying levels of comfort with mathematical concepts and the appropriateness of certain texts for different stages of learning.

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Students self-studying physics at the undergraduate level, particularly those seeking guidance on textbooks and supplementary materials for various physics topics.

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I am self-studying Physics in the second year of my undergrad(too late i know) as I never really understood many basic concepts in my high school as clearly as i now do.

In my enthusiasm to teach myself Physics I bought a number of books but none seem on par with stuff described on many forums by advanced learners.. I am terribly confused which text to use as an accompaniment to MIT-OCW Lectures.

I am taking Classical Mechanics and plan to take Electricity and Magnetism followed by Vibrations and waves. (i can't get the ohanian anywhere..please suggest a substitute)

So I need you guys to advise me about the texts i use to accompany the above courses... I have the following texts and I have access to a huge library so please tell me which books i should retain and which i shouldn't,
I have:

1. Fundamentals of Physics- Halliday, Resnick, Walker 8th edition extended
2. H.C.Verma concepts in Physics

I have borrowed the following:
3. Problems in general physics- Irodov
4. Laws of Mechanics- Irodov
5. Electromagnetics- irodov
6. Newtonian mechanics- A.P.French
7. Mechanics volume 1 berkeley course

Should i get the Feynman Lectures; Landau and Lifshitz? Are they too advanced.. When can i use them if they are?

Also Please suggest courses like Walter Lewin's series on OCW for UNDERGRAD level..these topics
Special and general relativity
Quantum mechanics
Thermodynamics and statistical physics
Solid state physics
Electronics
Nuclear and Particle physics
Atomic and Optical physics

All my preparation is aimed towards enabling myself to handle concepts with ease and appreciate the subject but at the same time prepare me for the screening test for a masters in my national university :P
Thank you so much people!
 
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Some good early books are:
Kleppner&Kolenkow and Morin for intro mechanics
Morin&Purcell and Griffiths for intro E&M
French for intro waves+vibrations
Feyman Lectures can be quite interesting
The old three volume Alonso and Finn appears as if it might be a nicer intro than the modern intros.
 
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I wouldn't quite jump into GR yet, but once you get all the intro stuff done:
Hartle
Schwartz
Dirac
Carroll
Zee
are some nice GR books

(stuff like MTW and Wald are trickier to start with I think)
 
For QM you look at stuff like: Griffiths and Gasiorowicz and then Shankar and Ballantine and Sakurai
 
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porcupine137 said:
Schwartz

Do you mean "Schutz"?
 
George Jones said:
Do you mean "Schutz"?

Oops yeah that is who I meant. I guess I somehow combined Schutz with Schwarzschild hah. Or maybe I was thinking of Schwarz of GSW strings book by accident.
 
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thank you guys, but is Fundamentals of Physics not useful at all? :'(
 
Walter Lewin uses a little bit of Calculus in his courses, especially in 8.03 from what I have seen of it. If you are not comfortable with notation like \nabla \cdot B and \nabla \times E you may want to add a book on Multivariable Calculus into the cart.
 
i was thinking i'd do the linear and multivariable math courses on OCW while i tackle classical mechanics and Electricity and magnetism!
 
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Curieuse said:
i was thinking i'd do the linear and multivariable math courses on OCW while i tackle classical mechanics and Electricity and magnetism!

I went through lectures of MIT 18.02 multivariable calculus by Denis Auroux a month ago, I think it is a very accessible course. They have all the lectures uploaded to youtube, it makes it pretty easy to follow. It assumes background in single variable calculus though.
 
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Many good books have been mentioned here, some of which you already have. I'd go with

Mechanics: French's "Newtonian Mechanics" first, then Kleppner & Kolenkov.
Waves: French's "Vibrations and Waves" (a masterpiece!), then if you have the time Georgi's "The Physics of Waves" (it's free to download from the author's page, God bless him).

EM: First I'd go with a used copy of Kip's "Fundamentals of Electricity and Magnetism", and after that Purcell and Morin's second volume of the Berkeley Physics Course.

Thermo, not sure. Perhaps Zemanski first, and Reif after that. Callen if you prefer the axiomatic treatment.

Quantum: I like a lot Eisberg and Resnick's "Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei, and Particles", 2e

And for general texts:
The Feynman lectures online (I can't believe how beautifully they have been rendered, with SVG graphics, too!)
And a one in all tome by Ohanian, perhaps by searching through the various amazons in the rest of the world you can find an older version (they are better than the newer ones) at a reasonable price. I found the 2-volumes in one tome for 3 bucks! 2nd edition. Keep looking, it's a nice 'all-in-one' textbook.
 
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Thanks SredniVashtar, but what about D.J.Griffiths for EM? And Fundamentals of Physics?? I'm already through the first 6 chapters! D: I think I'll do it simultaneously with French's Newtonian Mechanics. But thanks anyway! I'll follow the rest of the sugested lists religiously i guess! :P Thanks everyone!
 
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Griffiths is a very nice text. If you already have that, there is no need to change.

I am not a fan of Halliday and Resnick's big volumes, though.
 

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