The Science of Time Travel: Uncovering Ancient Knowledge and Modern Discoveries

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of time travel, exploring both historical perspectives and modern scientific theories. Participants examine the implications of time as a dimension linked to space, the nature of photons, and the potential for time travel through various theoretical frameworks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Speculative

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that H.G. Wells' 'Time Machine' predates Einstein's theory of relativity, suggesting a possible influence but emphasizing that Einstein did not claim time travel is possible.
  • There is a proposition that the relationship between entropy and the direction of time could imply two directions of time based on the expansion or contraction of the universe.
  • One participant suggests that to travel in time, one would need to become a photon, moving at the speed of light, which raises questions about mass and aging.
  • Another participant questions whether photons detected from the past are original or copies, and how many photons would be needed to encapsulate all information about the universe.
  • Some argue that cosmic microwave background radiation does not contain all information about the early universe, as other reactions also contribute to the universe's history.
  • There is a speculative idea that antimatter might travel in a different timeline and that virtual photons could contain information about both past and future events.
  • One participant reflects on the philosophical implications of time travel and the potential for future discoveries related to immortality and the nature of existence.
  • Another participant raises the idea that time travel might not require immense energy if space-time could open vortices under certain conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of views on the nature of time travel, the role of photons, and the implications of entropy. There is no consensus on the feasibility of time travel or the completeness of information contained in photons from the past.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on interpretations of cosmological events and the nature of photons, with unresolved questions about the completeness of information they carry. The discussion includes speculative ideas that are not universally accepted.

  • #31
Incomplete again. Write after "com" the rest of the e-mail:

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Don't forget the "/ " before "ubb".

I didn't say it there but I say now, Chinese ideograms written from the top to the bottom and Mandarine language (allowing the use of other hemisphere of the brain) are probably linked to Frank Rampsey's gliph math codes just like cuneiform Sumerian scripture. The more you go into the past, it gives the impression there was no language evolution imitating sounds of animals but involution, not just cos Chinese ideograms were 50.000 but cos in ancient languages there was a multidimensional significance, symbolic, alphabetic or sylables and numerals. Easy to swallow those explanations about oral language or imitating deaf and dumb language of the orangotangos, or smaller jaw or specific bone allow the speech. Those stories sound fishy to me, language requires something more than a bone that not even a parrot requires to "talk" and whistle. It's a question of intelligence in unknown gray mass called brain.
Egyptians and Greeks were using Pi but they couldn't imagine the "irrational" number has 2000 decimal houses found so far.
When Newton wanted to calculate the weigh of our beloved blue planet, the books won't tell you very often he was Freemason who sent a friend of his to weigh the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Now, is there anybody in this forum who dares to say Mr.Newton was a "pyramidiotic"? Who want to be the first throwing the stone? Of course not cos he was the one who taught most of the things you have memorized in school and university regarding physics! Clap-clap-clap!
The same happens with Cristopher Columbus, you won't read very often he used prophetic book of Ezra II part of the first Latin production and probably Isaiah 40:22 (saying the Earth was "hugh" or circular in all directions, a globe) to convince the Spanish Catholic kings for the journey of America's "discovery".
Now, how come did Ezra and Isaiah or Job arrived to similar conclusions when Greeks later on believed in flat Earth and forgot everything they learned from Hitites by importation and not self knowledge? Such topic is disgusting for some readers, I recognize. It's like a self massage counting the story from Greek and even flatter perspective than Euclides... in order to give the false sensation we really have learned enormously in gigantic proportion in so little time.
 
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  • #32
selfAdjoint said:
Do you have a reference before Wells' "Time Machine?". I'm not aware of any time travel story by Poe or Verne.

Have a look for "Three Sundays in a Week" by Poe. There should be an online copy somewhere. Not sure on the Verne.
 
  • #33
I have said the ancient people knew the use of copper -now we use it in accelerators- and other devices. What do we re-discover now?:
Dr.Vladimir Poponin set DNA in a tube, irradiated it with laser. Captured the light and formed an helix spiral like a crystal. When DNA was removed, the LIGHT CONTINUED SPINNING BY ITSELF, looking like DOUBLE SNAKE violet light coming out from the pyramidion with the help of Tesla Coil. Austrian scientist, Anton Zeilenger, bended photons like multiple DNA in angular orbital moment. In Switzerland, CERN Large Hadron Collider experiences want to generate mini black holes with little entropy at a rate of 1 per second. It seems these are bubbles of vacuum. In Los Alamos National Laboratory and South Carolina Univ., they are examining the “gravastars” and they try to create super-atoms. Gravity has not been detected in space lesser than 1 mm.
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