The sign of the change in potential

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The discussion centers on the relationship between electric potential and electric field strength, specifically addressing the potential difference between points A and B in an electric field. The potential at point B is zero, while point A has a negative potential value. The correct expression for the potential difference is identified as V_B - V_A, which results in a positive change when moving from A to B. The method used in the original post for calculating the potential difference is deemed incorrect, as it misapplies vector and scalar concepts in the context of line integrals.

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If there is a infinitely large plane, and it is in electrostatic equilibrium. It is positively charged. We set the point B on it to have electric potential of 0. We have a point A on x-axis, which is perpendicular to the plane. (A)x=-x. What is the electric potential there? Assuming plane has electric potential to be 0.
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Va-Vb=integral from a to b E dl
My physics teacher discussed this in my university intro physics class. So I know that moving along the electric field lines would mean decreasing in electric potential. And since the electric filed lines are pointing outward from the surface, and the B point on the surface is of zero electric potential. That means the electric potential of A is negative.

So I substitute into the equation.

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My Question is :
a) Is the result correct?
b) how do we determine the value for a and b? does a and b increase in the same direction as the electric strenght while starting from the point where electric potential is zero?
 
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rickyw2777 said:
b) how do we determine the value for a and b? does a and b increase in the same direction as the electric strenght while starting from the point where electric potential is zero?
It's a line integral. a ##a## is where you start and b##b## is where you end up. Figure that out and substitute. Then you will know if the answer in (a) is correct.
 
So the potential difference from A to B is negative right?
 
rickyw2777 said:
So the potential difference from A to B is negative right?
Do you mean ##V_B−V_A~## or ##~V_A-V_B##?
 
Va-Vb
 
The result ## -2k\pi\sigma x ## is a correct result, but the method in the original post is not correct. ## 2k\pi\sigma\int_{a}^{b}\vec{dl} ## is a vector, but it should be a scalar.
The question b) is not clear. What does the original poster mean by the electric strength?
 
Gavran said:
What does the original poster mean by the electric strength?
Presumably its the electric field ##\vec{E}=-\nabla V##, whose magnitude is sometimes referred to as electric field strength.
 
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rickyw2777 said:
So the potential difference from A to B is negative right?
rickyw2777 said:
Va-Vb
I would call the potentials ##V_A## and ##V_B## because a and b are not points (they are limit-values in an integral). Consistent use of symbols is important. Here we have ##V_B = 0## and ##V_A \lt 0##.

Use of language may be a bit of problem If we go from A to B, the potential changes from a negative value to zero. So the potential-change (the potential-difference) from A to B is positive (e.g. going from -4 volts to 0 is a change of +4 volts).

The expression ‘potential difference between points A and B’ is more common but is also a bit ambiguous; it would usually be interpreted as ##V_B – V_A## (rather than ##V_A - V_B##). With the usual convention, 'the potential difference between A and B is positive in this problem.

So care with language is needed to avoid confusion.

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