The Stefan-Boltzmann Law on Pure Proton Plasma

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The discussion centers on the application of the Stefan-Boltzmann law to pure proton plasma. Participants clarify that the law, which describes blackbody radiation, does not exclusively apply to objects with electrons; protons can also emit radiation. The conversation highlights that while pure proton plasma may not have oscillators like electrons, it can still lose energy according to the fourth power of its temperature due to the oscillation of protons. The use of a Penning Trap is noted as a method for confining non-neutral plasmas, which can help maintain stability and compensate for energy losses.

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Hi guys. I had a question concerning a pure proton plasma with a given temperature and its loss of energy due to the Stefan-Boltzmann law. From my understanding, the Stefan-Boltzmann law applies to objects that contain electrons. I don't think that's true but I would like to know if it is. If true, then does the Stefan-Boltzmann law not apply to plasma composed purely of protons?
 
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How would such a plasma be stable at all (long enough to assign a temperature to it)? I would expect a Coulomb explosion.
 
I've read that non-neutral plasmas are actually easier to confine. They can be confined for long periods of time using a Penning Trap. I am guessing that they supply energy to the plasma to compensate for losses. However, does the plasma lose energy due to the Stefan-Boltzmann law? I am aware of losses due to collisions and what not but I am interested in whether they lose energy according the the fourth power of their temperature.
 
A penning trap is great to capture a few charged particles with few interactions between them and negligible total charge.
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I am guessing that they supply energy to the plasma to compensate for losses.
Usually, cooling is a nice feature.

I would expect to see the 4th power there as well, but as the plasma is thin the prefactor will be different.
 
If it were possible to trap a large number of charged particles, would the resulting mass of proton plasma lose power according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law? You said you would expect to see it, right? I always thought that an object couldn't emit blackbody radiation unless it had oscillators such as electrons. Correct me if I am wrong to assume that please.
 
I assumed the Stefan-Boltzmann (SB) law only applied to objects that had electrons since the SB law can be derived from Planck's law, which itself was derived on the assumption that the blackbody has oscillators. Since there are no electrons to oscillate around the protons in a pure proton plasma, wouldn't the plasma follow energy losses due to other processes and not due to the SB law?
 
The object needs charged components. Protons or other nuclei are charged components.
There is nothing special about electrons, they are just lighter and therefore easier to accelerate.
 
So the protons composing the plasma would oscillate to give off energy according to the fourth power of their temperature as well?
 
They would certainly radiate, and I would be surprised if it is not the fourth power.
 
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Thank you for your time, mfb (:
 

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