Exploring the Oddities of the Four Fundamental Forces

In summary, it seems that the range of the strong nuclear force is limited, but it is still the strongest force in nature.
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As we know that their are four fundamental force in nature
Namely Electromagnetic force, strong and weak nuclear force and the gravity

But we study regarding their properties
And compare their properties we see a strange thing

That for the case of strong nuclear force enspite of being the strongest force in nature is has very low range but when we compare it gravitational force we see its rang to be infinity but the magnitude the small in all the fundamental force in nature
Why we have to see such oddnes in behaviour?
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
Why we have to see such oddnes in behaviour?
Why do you think it's odd? Would you prefer that they all have the same range? Think how boring that would be, besides having drastic consequences on the way things work.

Physics doesn't answer "why" questions. We observe what is and do our best to describe it accurately and in a way that will make predictions. "Why" questions are in the realms of philosophy and religion.
 
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phinds said:
Would you prefer that they all have the same range
I think as for a simple thinking could it not be possible to have force which is strong should also have greatest range like the
Electromagnetic force have infinity range with great magnitude

So according to which gravity would have smaller range
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
I think as for a simple thinking could it not be possible to have force which is strong should also have greatest range like the
Electromagnetic force have infinity range with great magnitude

So according to which gravity would have smaller range
You're right, that is simple thinking. And, the fundamental forces of nature are simple because ...
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
I think as for a simple thinking could it not be possible to have force which is strong should also have greatest range like the
Electromagnetic force have infinity range with great magnitude

So according to which gravity would have smaller range
ANYTHING "COULD" be, but it isn't. You are indulging in philosophy. If things were different, there would be people wondering why they were THAT way and not some other way. Things are the way they are. Get over it.
 
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Could I have the reason in your world which limits the range of strong nuclear force to a specific small region?
The strong force has no theoretical limit to its range, as gluons have no mass
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
Could I have the reason in your world which limits the range of strong nuclear force to a specific small region?
How would Experimental Evidence suit you? Physics studies the what and not the why.
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
Could I have the reason in your world which limits the range of strong nuclear force to a specific small region?
The strong force has no theoretical limit to its range, as gluons have no mass
QCD (Quantum Chromidynamics) which is the theory of the strong force is excruciatingly complicated. One aspect of the interaction is so called color confinement, which prevents free gluons emerging like photons. This is part of the explanation for the short range of the strong interaction.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Physics studies the what and not the why.
You may be right sir but I the involvement of why in physics has the same magnitude as what
As uptill now we have answered why question through physics same as of

Like if a student asks that why the Earth revolves around the sun ?
Our answer to it is due to gravity
Which phenomenon we get to understand by physics we don't consider it to be philosophy
Thing
But when we reach such a phenomenon to which reason to which not yet discovered then will we consider it philosophy
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
Could I have the reason in your world which limits the range of strong nuclear force to a specific small region?
The strong force has no theoretical limit to its range, as gluons have no mass
Also, look up the "residual strong force" on the Wikipedia page for the "strong interaction".
 
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"Why is the strong nuclear force short ranged" is a question that can be answered by science.
"Why isn't the universe arranged more to my liking?" is not.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
"Why is the strong nuclear force short ranged" is a question that can be answered by science.
Mr vanadium
It's not the question to which I have asked that why is strong nuclear force is short ranged the question was much more of specific that we don't have a theratical limit to strong nuclear force but expertly we can say for it has limit. As after which its field or force may also be present but because of very small magnitude we are not able to detect it yet

And on the other hand as for the case this force is present between small fundamental components of matter

The question was why gravity in relation to this or this in relation to gravity is such
But it seems we don't have any direct answer to it as per the above discussion
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
Electromagnetic force have infinity range with great magnitude

no it doesn't ... it's strength drops off with the inverse square law

if it did as you said, we could communicate across the galaxy by radio with ease
Or every star in the sky would be extremely bright

You really need to do some reading on the known science facts before you make such statements
 
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Zeeshan Ahmad said:
The strong force has no theoretical limit to its range, as gluons have no mass
This is not correct; a massless gauge boson does not necessarily imply infinite range. In the case of the strong interaction, as has already been pointed out, there is confinement; this does not occur for the electromagnetic interaction, which is why the latter has inverse square law behavior with unlimited range and the former does not.

Since that was your substantive question in the OP, and it has been answered, this thread is now closed.
 
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1. What are the four fundamental forces?

The four fundamental forces are the strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, electromagnetism, and gravity. These forces govern the interactions between particles in the universe.

2. How do these forces differ from each other?

The strong nuclear force is responsible for holding together the nucleus of an atom, while the weak nuclear force is involved in radioactive decay. Electromagnetism is responsible for the interactions between electrically charged particles, and gravity is the force that attracts objects with mass towards each other.

3. Why are these forces considered fundamental?

These forces are considered fundamental because they cannot be broken down into smaller components and are believed to be the building blocks of all interactions in the universe. They are also the only forces that have been observed to exist in nature.

4. How are these forces related to each other?

Theories such as the Standard Model and the Theory of Everything attempt to explain the relationship between these forces. It is believed that at high energies, these forces merge into a single unified force, but at lower energies, they appear to be distinct forces.

5. How do scientists study and explore these fundamental forces?

Scientists study these forces through various experiments and observations, such as particle accelerators and astronomical observations. They also use mathematical models and theories to understand the behavior of these forces and their effects on the universe.

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