The time needed for Q to reach 20% of its final value

In summary, the conversation discusses solving for the final value of charge on a capacitor using the equations Q = Qmax (1-e-t/τ) and Q= CΔV, and calculates the final value to be 20% of the initial charge using the formula 20% Qf = 20%* C*ΔV. The mistake in the original attempt was in the calculation of R, which was later corrected, and the rearrangement of the equation before taking the natural logarithm. The final solution is t = - ln (0.8) *20 = 4.46 s.
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Fatima Hasan
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Q = Qmax (1-e-t/τ)
Q= CΔV

The Attempt at a Solution


CΔV = CΔV (1-e-t/RC)
0.2 = (1-e-t/(1*106*10*10-6)
ln (0.2) = ##-\frac{t}{10}##
t = - ln(0.2)*10
= 16.09 s
Can someone tell me where is my mistake ?
 

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  • #2
What is the final value of charge on the capacitor?

What is 20% of that final value?
 
  • #3
magoo said:
What is 20% of that final value?
20% Qf = 20%* C*ΔV
= 20% * 10*10-6 *10
= 2*10-5 C
 
  • #4
magoo said:
What is the final value of charge on the capacitor?
No need to find that. Fatima's method was essentially correct.
 
  • #5
Fatima Hasan said:
CΔV = CΔV (1-e-t/RC)
0.2 = (1-e-t/(1*106*10*10-6)
How are you calculating R?
 
  • #6
Fatima Hasan said:
There are two resistors in the circuit , but they are not connected in series nor in parallel . I calculated R as it given in the question = 1 MΩ.
well, they are both in the circuit. When a current I flows, what is the consequence of them for the potential across the capacitor?
 
  • #7
In addition to the resistance value that haruspex pointed out, your equation

0.2 = 1 - e^(-t/RC)

needs to be rearranged before you take the natural logs.
 
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  • #8
magoo said:
In addition to the resistance value that haruspex pointed out, your equation

0.2 = 1 - e^(-t/RC)

needs to be rearranged before you take the natural logs.
0.2 = 1 - e(t)/(2*106*10*10-6)
e-t/τ = 0.8
ln (0.8) = - t / 20
t = - ln (0.8) *20
= 4.46 s
 
  • #9
Nice work!
 

1. What is the meaning of "Q" in this context?

"Q" represents a variable in a scientific study or experiment, and it can refer to a variety of different factors depending on the specific context.

2. Can you explain the significance of Q reaching 20% of its final value?

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3. How is the time needed for Q to reach 20% of its final value calculated?

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