The time needed for Q to reach 20% of its final value

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The discussion revolves around determining the time required for a charge (Q) to reach 20% of its final value in a capacitor circuit. The subject area includes concepts from electrical circuits, specifically relating to capacitors and resistors.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the equation for charge over time in a capacitor and question the calculation of resistance. There are attempts to clarify the final value of charge and its implications for determining 20% of that value.

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Some participants have provided guidance on rearranging equations before applying logarithms, while others have confirmed the correctness of certain methods. Multiple interpretations of the circuit's resistance are being discussed, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

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There is mention of two resistors in the circuit, with uncertainty about their configuration and impact on the calculations. The original poster's calculations and assumptions are being scrutinized, particularly regarding the resistance value used in the equations.

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Q = Qmax (1-e-t/τ)
Q= CΔV

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CΔV = CΔV (1-e-t/RC)
0.2 = (1-e-t/(1*106*10*10-6)
ln (0.2) = ##-\frac{t}{10}##
t = - ln(0.2)*10
= 16.09 s
Can someone tell me where is my mistake ?
 

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What is the final value of charge on the capacitor?

What is 20% of that final value?
 
magoo said:
What is 20% of that final value?
20% Qf = 20%* C*ΔV
= 20% * 10*10-6 *10
= 2*10-5 C
 
magoo said:
What is the final value of charge on the capacitor?
No need to find that. Fatima's method was essentially correct.
 
Fatima Hasan said:
CΔV = CΔV (1-e-t/RC)
0.2 = (1-e-t/(1*106*10*10-6)
How are you calculating R?
 
Fatima Hasan said:
There are two resistors in the circuit , but they are not connected in series nor in parallel . I calculated R as it given in the question = 1 MΩ.
well, they are both in the circuit. When a current I flows, what is the consequence of them for the potential across the capacitor?
 
In addition to the resistance value that haruspex pointed out, your equation

0.2 = 1 - e^(-t/RC)

needs to be rearranged before you take the natural logs.
 
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magoo said:
In addition to the resistance value that haruspex pointed out, your equation

0.2 = 1 - e^(-t/RC)

needs to be rearranged before you take the natural logs.
0.2 = 1 - e(t)/(2*106*10*10-6)
e-t/τ = 0.8
ln (0.8) = - t / 20
t = - ln (0.8) *20
= 4.46 s
 
Nice work!
 

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