Why Are Neurons Shaped the Way They Are?

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The discussion centers around the shape and function of neurons, exploring evolutionary perspectives, structural characteristics, and the implications for their roles in the nervous system. Participants delve into the reasons behind the long axons and branched dendrites, as well as the evolutionary pressures that may have influenced these designs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the shape of neurons has evolved due to selective pressures favoring designs that enhance survivability and reproductive success.
  • Others describe the structural features of neurons, such as long axons for distance signaling and branched dendrites to increase surface area for receiving signals.
  • A participant notes that the variety in neuron shapes is influenced by nearby neurons and adhesion molecules, raising questions about the mechanisms behind these shapes.
  • Some participants express confusion about the distinction between "why" and "how" questions in biology, suggesting that "how" may be more relevant to understanding neuronal structure and function.
  • There is a discussion about whether evolutionary principles apply to all cells and tissues, not just neurons, indicating a broader context of evolutionary biology.
  • One participant emphasizes the chemical signaling in neurons, countering the notion that they solely receive electrical impulses from the brain.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of understanding action potentials as a fundamental aspect of how neurons function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the evolutionary context of neuron shapes and their functions. While some agree on evolutionary influences, others question the application of these principles to all cell types. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly regarding the mechanisms of neuronal signaling.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of neuronal function and structure, noting that the discussion involves assumptions about evolutionary biology and the specific mechanisms of neuronal signaling that are not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and researchers in biology, neuroscience, and evolutionary studies, particularly those exploring the relationship between structure and function in biological systems.

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Why are neurons shaped the way they are?
 
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What part of their shape do you mean? They are long, since they have to stretch over long distances, they have a bulky head to accommodate the nucleus, they have an synaptic disk to optimize surface area contact, they have many dendrites to receive signals from other cells..
 
JimmyRay said:
Why are neurons shaped the way they are?

Interesting question.

Neurons as all other biological components have a long evolutionary history. From that perspective, the particular design of the neuron arose in short, by selective pressures operating on chance designs, weeding out the less favorable designs. The particular morphology of the neuron as it is today represents millions of years of selective pressure favoring the best design of a cognitive faculty which optimized the survivability and reproducibility of the organism within the constraints imposed by chemical and physical means.
 
I see so they have evolved to be this way that's cool.

They receive signals from other cells from their dendrites but why? Why do they exist? Let me try to answer this first...

Well our nervous system is made up of these neurons and the brain makes commands which travel as signals along these neurons? and the neurons give these signals to other neurons and or muscles? To perform a specific function? Like muscle contraction?

Are neurons located anywhere else? and by shape I mainly meant why is the axon so long? and why are dendrites branched out (probably so they can increase surface area and receive as much signals as possible?)
 
JimmyRay said:
I Why do they exist?
They exists because they contribute to persistence of being. You know, individuals with superior neural consructs better survived and reproduced than those with meager ones: If two early hominids saw two lions entering the savanna and saw one leave, the hominid that could count would pass on his genes to the gene pool.

I mainly meant why is the axon so long?
Axons need to be as long as it takes to reach their terminal bud. I believe the longest in man is about 3 feet (from spinal column to big toe).

and why are dendrites branched out
The neural architecture (connections) gives rise to mind although some would argue other "forces" are involved, In general, the greater the complexity (extent of connections), the greater the extent of mind. A cognitive apparatus is a selective advantage to survival; one with greater complexity is more of an advantage within limits. Thus, through millions of years of evolution, the advantage of a more connected architecture drove our evolution towards greater neural complexity (more branching). The reason other life forms didn't evolve such complexity is simple: chance (we were lucky) and competition (we'd stop them).
 
There is actually quite a lot of variety to the shapes of neurons. Dendritic and axonal branching (yes, axons can branch as well) is guided by other nearby neurons and adhesion molecules nearby.

As you're asking questions in biology, think about whether you're really intending to ask "why" or "how." The question of "why" is usually related back to evolutionary processes, and can often be thought about with better clarity in context of "why not?" However, students often ask "why?" when they mean "how?"

My brief answer above addresses "how?" There are a lot of people actively researching that question, if that's the question you really meant to ask. They are looking at the intracellular signaling, extracellular signaling, cytoskeletal responses, etc. The question is important for understanding other "how" questions, such as how do neurons form connections during development and ensure these are the right connections for the function they will serve, and how can neuronal connections be repaired after injury.
 
Moonbear you're right I was asking more of a "how" question... "Why" they are shaped a certain way is because of biological evolution...

Okay I understand that survival of the fittest thing (saltydog) but doesn't that hold true for all human cells? tissues? organs? not just nerve cells?

What about the main function of neurons like, they receive electrical impulses from the brain right? I am just wondering what they do basically...like.. the process of how they work in the nervous system..
 
JimmyRay said:
Okay I understand that survival of the fittest thing (saltydog) but doesn't that hold true for all human cells? tissues? organs? not just nerve cells?

Yea, JimmyRay, everything within us is affected by evolutionary pressures.

What about the main function of neurons like, they receive electrical impulses from the brain right? I am just wondering what they do basically...like.. the process of how they work in the nervous system..

You can google on that. Francis Crick wrote a good book called "The Astonishing Hypothesis" that a good read. Another good one is "The Computational Brain" by Churchland and Sejnowski. Tons more you know. Lots of chemistry. That's why I majored in Chemistry!

Salty
 
JimmyRay said:
What about the main function of neurons like, they receive electrical impulses from the brain right?

No, they are one of the cell types that form the brain. It's chemical signaling based on ion gradients.

Im just wondering what they do basically...like.. the process of how they work in the nervous system..

I wish I had seen this earlier before I was too tired to write out a lengthy explanation. For now, look up "action potential" to get you started on how neurons function.
 

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