The volume of the nucleus to the volume of the electron

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The discussion focuses on calculating the ratio of the volume of the nucleus to the volume of the electron for the hydrogen atom. The user utilized the equation R = Ro A1/3 with Ro set at 1.2 x 10-15 m to determine the nucleus radius, while the classical electron radius was cited as 2.8 x 10-15 m. Participants clarified that the electron does not possess a definitive size, making direct comparisons invalid. Additionally, a more accurate value for the hydrogen nucleus radius is suggested to be approximately 1.75 x 10-15 m.

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Homework Statement
i'am trying to find the volume of the nucleus to the volume of the electron (for hydrogen )
Relevant Equations
R = R. A^1/3 the radius of the nucleus
re = 2.8 * 10^-15 m
i'am trying to find the ratio between the volume of the nucleus for the hydrogen atom to its electron , but when i try to use the previous equations it seems wrong as i'am getting a low number like if the electron is bigger .
i used the the classical electron radius as it was the only thing that i could find :
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and the radius of the nucleus is obtained from the equation:
R = Ro A1/3 and as Ro = 1.2 * 10-15 m

now the radius of the electron is bigger ?!
is this equation not valid for small atoms like hydrogen ?
is there any other approach for the problem ?
 
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patric44 said:
Problem Statement: i'am trying to find the volume of the nucleus to the volume of the electron (for hydrogen )
Relevant Equations: R = R. A^1/3 the radius of the nucleus
re = 2.8 * 10^-15 m

i'am trying to find the ratio between the volume of the nucleus for the hydrogen atom to its electron , but when i try to use the previous equations it seems wrong as i'am getting a low number like if the electron is bigger .
i used the the classical electron radius as it was the only thing that i could find :
View attachment 245461
and the radius of the nucleus is obtained from the equation:
R = Ro A1/3 and as Ro = 1.2 * 10-15 m

now the radius of the electron is bigger ?!
is this equation not valid for small atoms like hydrogen ?
is there any other approach for the problem ?
They're not really comparable. The electron is not generally considered to have a size. The radius given by that formula is just useful for some purposes.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_electron_radius.
By the way, I see slightly larger values given for the H nucleus radius, more like 1.75.10-15m.
 

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